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on May 1st 2020, 3:28 pm
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Hello again. A few months ago, I posted a thread explaining why I firmly believe that the Noble Qur'an is the Word of God to challenge non-Muslims, which recieved no adequate rebuttal. Since it is now the holy month of Ramadan, I thought it would be fitting if I made another one, and I hope the moderators do not censor this act of free speech, otherwise I am being discriminated and they will receive the full wrath of Allah Azawajal. The topic of this thread will be about the doctrine of Jihad because a lot of people have been spreading misinformation about it, and it has confused people into having a rudimentary understanding of Jihad.

Misconception: Jihad is only about spiritual struggle and has nothing to do with Holy War.

This is a half truth. Words have multiple meanings and can mean different things depending on the context. In Islamic theology, Jihad is about a Muslim's spritual struggle i.e. struggling with being devout and resisting their sinful impulses. However, this is not all that there is to Jihad. Jihad in Islamic context, can also be about holy wars. Here is how several authentic Hadiths define Jihad:

“Narrated 'Abdullah:

I asked the Prophet "Which deed is the dearest to Allah?" He replied, "To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times." I asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, "To be good and dutiful to your parents" I again asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, 'To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's cause." 'Abdullah added, "I asked only that much and if I had asked more, the Prophet would have told me more."

Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 527.

“Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "A pious slave gets a double reward." Abu Huraira added: By Him in Whose Hands my soul is but for Jihad (i.e. holy battles), Hajj, and my duty to serve my mother, I would have loved to die as a slave.”

Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 2548.

“Narrated Anas bin Malik:

On the day of the battle of the Trench (i.e. Ghazwat-ul-Khandaq) the Ansar used to say, "We are those who have given the pledge of allegiance to Muhammad for Jihad (i.e. holy fighting) as long as we live." The Prophet replied to them, "O Allah! There is no life except the life of the Hereafter; so please honor the Ansar and the Emigrants."


Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 3796.

“Narrated Majashi:

I took my brother to the Prophet after the Conquest (of Mecca) and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have come to you with my brother so that you may take a pledge of allegiance from him for migration." The Prophet said, The people of migration (i.e. those who migrated to Medina before the Conquest) enjoyed the privileges of migration (i.e. there is no need for migration anymore)." I said to the Prophet, "For what will you take his pledge of allegiance?" The Prophet said, "I will take his pledge of allegiance for Islam, Belief, and for Jihad (i.e. fighting in Allah's Cause)"

Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 4305.

"Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Allah guarantees him who strives in His Cause and whose motivation for going out is nothing but Jihad in His Cause and belief in His Word, that He will admit him into Paradise (if martyred) or bring him back to his dwelling place, whence he has come out, with what he gains of reward and booty."

Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 3123
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These hadiths are authoritative Islamic material that explicitly describe Jihad as "religious fighting," "holy battles,” "holy fighting," "fighting in Allah’s Cause," and "striving in his [Allah's] Cause," so yes, Jihad is about holy war, it's not exclusively limited to being about spiritual struggle. One of the greatest of Noble Prophet Muhammad himself's wishes is mentioned here:

"Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."

Source — Sahih Al-Bukhari 2797.

One of Prophet Muhammad's greatest wishes was to die in the cause of Jihad, come back to life and die as a martyr in the cause of Jihad again, than come back again and get martyred again, and keep experiencing all of that again several times. All of these hadiths are graded Sahih, so their authenticity is not open for dispute. They were given that grade by the Hadith scholars who are specialised in understanding Hadith science, so you cannot argue against them unless if you're one of those heretical Quranists.

Here is what one of Islam’s most renowned and scholarly historians said in his commentary on the Noble Quran:

“Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing.”

Source — Excerpt from Tafsir Ibn Kathir’s commentary on Surah Al-Baqarah.

Ibn Kathir describes Jihad as involving killing and shedding the blood of men, saying that Allah Azawajal indicated that these specific men are committing disbelief by violating Tawhid. The Islamic concept of Tawhid is that there is no God except Allah Almighty, and Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam is His messenger. Allah Almighty has no partners or peers in essence or attributes.


Dr Muhammad Muhsin Khan wrote this commentary in an edition of Sahih Al-Bukhari's collection of hadiths:

"[1] Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillar (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha Ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.

[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such impossible good deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward."

Source — Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari, translated by Dr Muhammad Muhsin Khan, page 580.

As the commentary says, Jihad is he most important religious duty in Islam. Jihad is not only permissible, but compulsory to be used to conquer non-Muslim lands and establish Islam through force. The purpose of every Muslim is to fight in the cause of Jihad to further the spread of Islam through the use of offensive warfare. Any Muslim who refuse to fight in the cause of Jihad, or lacks the desire to fight are identified as munafiqeen (hypocrites). A Muslim who carries out the act of fighting in Allah Almighty's cause is rewarded as if he has done such impossible good deeds that are unequalled in reward.



This is implicitly reinforced by Biographies of the Caliphs of Islam:

"The basic aim of Muslim conquests was to spread the call to Islam to all nations in all lands, away from all forms of coercion, and to conquer tyrannical rulers who would adamantly stand in its way.

When reviewing Muslim conquests that took place between Muslims and other nations, whether at its outset, during its peak, or towards its end, we realize that they were all based on one and the same principle: Calling on people to embrace Islam, or to enter into a peace agreement and lead a dignified life under the protection of Muslims. If they rejected both options, war would be the only choice left.

This is illustrated in the words of Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed to the ruler of Al-Kayrah when he said: "I call on you to worship Allah and embrace Islam. Should you accept our call, you become Muslims enjoying the same rights and shouldering the same responsibilities. Should you reject, you have to pay the Jizyah. Should you refue to pay the Jizyah, you will have to face men who are keener on death than you are on life. We will fight you till Allah's word comes to pass between us." Similarly, Khalid always had his army leaders call on people to embrace Islam first before battling with them. This is best expressed in the message he sent to the rulers of Persia which read: "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, from Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed to the ruler of Persia: embrace Islam in order to live in peace. If you do not, you will live under my protection in return for the Jizyah. Otherwise, you are up against people who love death just as much as you love wine.

Added to the above mentioned aim is another, namely, securing the yet budding Muslim state against the evil plots concoted by its enemies who were secretly lurking waiting to make their move, mainly the Persians, the Romans and others.

It therefore becomes obvious that coercion was never the way to embrace Islam. True belief has to be based on total and complete conviction. Swords were unsheathed only to open the way for the call to the truth. Forces of evil embodied in the tyrannical kings and rulers had to be driven off the road in order for their peoples to see the bright light of the day."

Source — Biographies of the Rightly Guided Caliphs by Ibn Kathir, pages 97-98.

For those who unfamiliar with the Rightly Guided Caliphs and why they have a biography, The Biographies of the Rightly Guided Caliphs Islam’s historical record of Caliphs Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali. After Prophet Muhammad’s demise, the Muslims came under the rule of the Caliphs, the Caliphs were Prophet Muhammad’s Sahabah i.e. his closest companions who knew Prophet Muhammad personally and followed his Sunnah extremely closely. This passage is self explanatory. Waging war is not the immediate option when dealing with non-Muslim nations. They would first be offered with two options: 1) convert to Islam, 2) Remain non-Muslim but pay Jizya, tribute money, to Muslims. If non-Muslim nations reject the options however, that is when Jihad can be waged against them. Jihad is then waged to conquer the lands of non-Muslim nations to establish Allah's rule. This is found in Surah At-Tawbah:

"O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." — Holy Qur'an 9:28-31 intepretated by Yusuf Ali.

Muslim scholars of today know this very well:

Issam Amira: Today, our honourable Islamic scholars talk only about defensive Jihad. "Fight for the sake of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress, for Allah does not like transgressors." In other words, you should always be polite, never go against anyone, and never point your weapon at anyone, unless someone attacks you. In all other cases, everything must be peaceful. No! When you face a polytheist enemy, you should give him three options: They must conver to Islam, or pay the Jizya poll tax, or else, you should seek the help of Allah and fight them. You should fight them even if they do not fight you. Seek the help of Allah, and fight them. Let the scholars hear this: You should seek the help of Allah and fight them. Only when they fight you? No! When they refuse to convert to Islam, and refuse to pay the Jizya. In such a case, it is meaningless (to let them) keep enjoying their life in this world, eating away from the sustenance bestowed by Allah, yet disbelieving in Him. No! Against their will, we shall subjagate them to the rule of Allah, without forcing them to convert to Islam.



^ Here's the entire English translation . As the Imam says, many modern Muslim scholars falsely misrepresent Jihad as exclusively defensive warfare that's waged against the kuffar who persecute defenseless, innocent Muslims, but the reality is that Jihad is both defensive and offensive. Here's another one affirming this:

Yunis Al Astal: Allah has chosen you for Himself and for His religion, so that you will serve as the engine pulling this nation to the phase of succession, security, and consolidation of power, and even to conquests thorough da'wa and military conquests of the capitals of the entire world. Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesied by our Prophet Muhammad. Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam -- this capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe.

I believe that our children or our grandchildren will inherit our Jihad and our sacrifices, and Allah willing, the commanders of the conquest will come from among them. Today, we instill these good tidings in their souls, and by means of the mosques and the Koran books, and the history of our Prophets, his companions, and the great leaders, we prepare them for the mission of saving humanity from the hellfire on the brink of which they stand.


Shia Scholar Ayatollah Baghdadi says the same:

Ayatollah Baghdadi: Offensive Jihad which means attacking the world in order to spread [Islam's] word... If the objective and subjective circumstances are made available, and the soldiers, arms, and money are available - furthermore, were biological, chemical, and bacterial [weapons] available - we will conquer the world for the triumph [of Islam's] saying, 'There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's messenger' over the domes of Moscow, Washington and Paris."


Muslim Brotherhood Sheikh Wagdi Ghoneim makes a great point about the importance of Jihad, Masha'Allah, go to 4:30:

Wagdi Ghoneim: I'm telling you the matter from the beginning so that we understand. Either you surrender, and give up the issue, and give up your hereafter, and be an evil traitor to your country, and a traitor to your own hereafter, or raise the banner of Jihad. The banner of Jihad will cost you. It costs you martyrs - but they're dying anyway! What is the problem? Brothers, in World War I, 5 million died! In World War II, 55 million! And in what cause did these peoople die!? What are we upset when we have martyrs? We heard the Ayat from those on the line with us. In the Qur'an, in Surat Aali-'Imran, "Think not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive," Where? "With their Lord," and a present tense statement, "and they have provision. They rejoice..." So why are you upset, then? "They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them of His Bounty," We are not saddened by our martyrs. Quite the contrary - we are glad that they die as martyrs. Either way they will die. Let them die with dignity, because this is something they are chosen for by Allah. In Surat Aali-Imran, "and that He may choose martyrs from among you." Does Allah give martyrdom to everyone who wants it? Of course not. But the idea with these evil betraying workers is that - here my brother is an Aya from Surat Al-Ma'ida... Aaya number 51,  Allah wa Jall (says), "O you who believe!" - (interrupted) - I'm not reciting to the people. I'm a Sheikh, not a politician. I'm a Sheikh. "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.) they are but Auliya' to one another. They help each other, love each other, and you see how well they treat the Jews in America. "And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then sure he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Thalimun (polyheists, wrong-doers and injust)." Isn't this an Aya of the Qur'an?!




And last and most certainly not least, we have this recent video by Sheikh Muhammad Hammoud Al-Najdi explaining the fundamental importance of offensive Jihad, quoting this brother will not be necessary:



In conclusion, it is now safe for me to conclude that I have refuted this heretical misconception and proven how important it is to endorse and practise holy wars as a Muslim because many of the pretenders and kuffar have misrepresented this doctrine, but as Surah Al-Anfal has said: "But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners." سبحان الله


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on May 1st 2020, 4:38 pm
Didn't read any of that shit.  

Wasn't Jizslam founded by a guy who heard voices in his head deep in the Arabian desert and decided conquer the world?
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on May 1st 2020, 10:50 pm
I agree with all of this tbh. Though I'm a staunch advocate for independent thought this might just be the religion for me
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on May 2nd 2020, 1:28 am
The G Canon Purist wrote:I agree with all of this tbh. Though I'm a staunch advocate for independent thought this might just be the religion for me

I'd recommend Buddhism instead.

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on May 2nd 2020, 9:34 am
@Ziggy wrote:Didn't read any of that shit.  

Wasn't Jizslam founded by a guy who heard voices in his head deep in the Arabian desert and decided conquer the world?

Concession accepted.

No it wasn't, my friend. Like many, you do not understand that *Islam has always existed, Muhammad, as the final Prophet, merely rediscovered it in the 7th century, and since then, it has not been lost in the ages.
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on May 2nd 2020, 9:34 am
The G Canon Purist wrote:I agree with all of this tbh. Though I'm a staunch advocate for independent thought this might just be the religion for me
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on May 2nd 2020, 6:03 pm
@Latham2000

Practice what you preach. Stab a kafir or three.
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on May 2nd 2020, 6:08 pm
@Geistalt wrote:@Latham2000

Practice what you preach. Stab a kafir or three.
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on May 2nd 2020, 6:27 pm
Create a world where everyone hears the Adhan five times a day.

Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah. Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah.
Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasul Allah. Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasul Allah.
Hayya 'ala-s-Salah. Hayya 'ala-s-Salah.
Hayya 'ala-l-Falah. Hayya 'ala-l-Falah.
Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
La ilaha illa Allah.
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on May 6th 2020, 11:46 am
@Geistalt wrote:Create a world where everyone hears the Adhan five times a day.

Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah. Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah.
Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasul Allah. Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasul Allah.
Hayya 'ala-s-Salah. Hayya 'ala-s-Salah.
Hayya 'ala-l-Falah. Hayya 'ala-l-Falah.
Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
La ilaha illa Allah.

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The crusades are examples of the real terrorists; they are amongst the biggest scum in all of history, and yet us Muslims, are labelled as "terrorists" killing innocents, but the reality is that we are only trying to eradicate filth and corruption (product of the kuffar and munafiqun) from the world.
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