May 24th 2020, 3:07 pm
ScionOfSkywalker77 wrote:Concession accepted.
What concession you are talking about?
It is absolutely clear to anybody with functioning senses that Darth Traya have superior demonstrations of power than Count Dooku, and Revan scales from Darth Traya. Remainder were responses to the points brought up against mine, and you stopped making sense eventually.
This contest is an absolute mismatch in favor of Revan from any angle. My take about Revan (SoR) in the following thread: https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t3086-does-revan-scale-from-his-sor-feats
"Revan as of the SWTOR (Shadow of Revan) is essentially a re-animated corpse which separated from Revan's original conscious while cheating death through sheer force of will and developed an alter-conscious of its own (i.e. driven by seething hatred for Vitiate at this point in time). This is/was an ANOMALOUS development and the source of much disturbance in the Force, and the resultant ripples could be felt across the galaxy at the time. This was an unnatural existence of Revan and his powers approached new heights in this capacity due to sheer hatred in him but he was neither a Jedi and nor a Sith at this point. The re-animated Revan is/was logically and technically an ENTITY of a sort. The Republic and the Empire suspended their clashes for a while, joined hands, and assembled a strike team of some of the finest warriors in the galaxy to take on Revan in this form. This was an extraordinary political development, and Revan's original conscious also reached out to the assembled strike team in order to undermine re-animated Revan during the ensuing confrontation."
Obi-Wan Kenobi cannot hold his ground against that; Revan (SoR) was immune to even lightsaber blows at the time.
- Lord Eon
June 7th 2020, 4:56 pm
MF Kenobi probably wins in a good fight. Base Kenobi loses.
- Darth Nihilus
October 9th 2020, 11:30 pm
- AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four
October 10th 2020, 12:30 am
Up. Revan murderstomps.XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote:HellfireUnit wrote:XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote:Revan defeats Kenobi with a single force attack. Can’t see Kenobi shitstomping SWTOR Voiciate with a thought.
And what makes Revan's attacks stronger than MFV's?
Well, I can put it this way: in Act 2, we have the HoT and a strike team of “the most powerful and resolute Jedi in the order” being defeated “easily” by the Emperor. A year later in Act 3, the HoT is able to fight through Kaas City and the Dark Temple (an immense focal point of dark side energy, arguably the most powerful in the galaxy) and slaughter the Voice in the throng of his power. While it is stated the Emperor is weakened, this is noted multiple times to be ”temporary,” and Scourge says that Vitiate would ”recover quickly” and ”could not be granted time to gather his power.” Keep in mind that even weakened Voiciate was powerful enough that Act 3 Scourge was incapable of ”resisting his direct influence”, and therefore felt he would be a hindrance to the Hero’s efforts. Conversely, in the Revan Novel, Revan states he ”probably” would not be capable of defeating Vitiate alone, but “with Meetra, Scourge, and T3 at his side, he believed they stood a real chance at victory.” This indicates that the Emperor as of the Novel could not dominate (an infinitely weaker and less intimate with Vitiate) Scourge in the same manner as weakened Voiciate could in SWTOR. Unfortunately, the Hero dissipated his energies” further by saving his apprentice before fighting the Emperor, giving him time to gather his power. Nevertheless, the Emperor was no match for the Hero. This is the kind of growth the Hero is capable of going through in a single year, and a testament to the unfathomable power he wields even at the ripe age of 23: power beyond any force user in history up until that point, even weakened and with dissipated reserves.
Another year passes and the Hero faces various galactic threats far beyond Voiciate, such as Soa, the Terror From Beyond, Amped Tagriss, and the Dread Masters. Before SoR, the Hero also undergoes spiritual growth in which he comes to terms with and embraces the repressed memories he had while being a mind slave under the Emperor for 6 months: ”My memories of that time were power. That power is my weapon and my right. I claim it.” After all of this, the Hero confronts Revan with Darth Marr, Satele Shan, Lana Beniko, and a squad of elite warriors, along with fighters dropping bombs on Revan to boot. The entire team including the Hero and Marr are being ”greatly” amped by Satele’s battle meditation during this confrontation, Satele being a prodigy of battle meditation on the order of her ancestor, Bastila. Despite this, the dialogue during the course of the fight implies the battle was hard-fought and close, and the team likely would have still lost if the Hero was not also being bolstered by Revan’s spirit to resist SoR Revan’s force destruction. The implication here is that SoR Revan is wildly, absurdly beyond a greatly amped SoR HoT on his own.
Ultimately, you would have to prove not only that MFV is beyond a greatly amped SoR HoT (note: brief amps are not considered under the purview of most powerful quotes for a variety of reasons), but that he is absurdly beyond amped SoR HoT, and that Kenobi is close enough to MFV to close that gap (despite being an entire tier lower, his performance against Anakin having as much to do with circumstance as with his own abilities).
- Lord Eon
October 11th 2020, 6:23 am
My mind has changed. Revan wins.
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