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nfactor1995
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on March 16th 2020, 4:07 pm
Prime Legends versions.  Fight is to the death, all-out (Force & sabers), and takes place on neutral ground.

Who wins and why?
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on March 16th 2020, 4:41 pm
vader due to being inmune to drain
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on March 16th 2020, 4:54 pm
Agreed. Nihilus' trump card, Drain, straight up wouldn't work on Vader. Nihilus starves himself trying to bite off more than he can chew, while Vader cuts him to literal ribbons.
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on March 16th 2020, 4:55 pm
Nihilus oneshots.
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on March 16th 2020, 4:57 pm
Vader eats him.
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on March 16th 2020, 5:00 pm
KelDorianUnit wrote:Vader shits on his neck 
fixed :PP
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on March 30th 2020, 5:46 am
Chris Avellone has spokenDarth Nihilus vs Darth Vader Screen10
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on March 30th 2020, 5:47 am
This isn't just an opinion BTW, it's an opinion coming from the guy who created Nihilus
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on March 30th 2020, 6:18 am
Excellent.
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on March 30th 2020, 7:55 am
KOTOR 2 Revan (aka the one under heavy influence of drugs negating him from using the force) >>>> Both Vader and Nihilus at once, nice
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on March 30th 2020, 7:59 am
@Nute_Chethray wrote:KOTOR 2 Revan (aka the one under heavy influence of drugs negating him from using the force) >>>> Both Vader and Nihilus at once, nice
How do u know he's talking about KOTOR 2 Revan ?
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on March 30th 2020, 8:11 am
@The Witness wrote:
@Nute_Chethray wrote:KOTOR 2 Revan (aka the one under heavy influence of drugs negating him from using the force) >>>> Both Vader and Nihilus at once, nice
How do u know he's talking about KOTOR 2 Revan ?
It reffers to Nihilus going to the present (OT era) or Vader going to the past. He then says that if Vader went to the past Revan would wreck them both. He seems to reffer to specific times and therefore for Nihilus to meet Vader and Revan coming to beat them, it'd have to be roughly kotor 2 revan
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on March 30th 2020, 10:01 am
Vader can resist his drain and and he's astronomically better as a swordsman. He wins.
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on March 30th 2020, 10:31 am
@BoD wrote:Vader can resist his drain and and he's astronomically better as a swordsman. He wins.
Evidence that Vader can resist Nihilus' specific form of drain? The Dark Reaper =/= Nihilus iirc. Plus, we also know that Nihilus' TK obliterates Vader (Vader has nothing on pulling a fleet out of a gravity well before proceeding to consume several planets and get mega growth).
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on March 30th 2020, 10:43 am
Evidence that Vader can resist Nihilus' specific form of drain? The Dark Reaper =/= Nihilus iirc.


Please explain the difference.


Plus, we also know that Nihilus' TK obliterates Vader (Vader has nothing on pulling a fleet out of a gravity well before proceeding to consume several planets and get mega growth).

Cool: does the feat have any context? Aside from it being done in the range of an immeasurably powerful dark side nexus, was it base Nihilus? Did he consume planets beforehand to amp himself up? What's the context?
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on March 30th 2020, 11:55 am
@BoD wrote:
Please explain the difference.


Explain to me how it's similar. Nihilus is able to drain Kreia, who taught him this drain technique and can thus defend against it. He utterly drains her force power:

KOTOR Campaign Guide wrote:"Darth Traya indeed teaches the newly christened Darth Nihilus to harness his life-draining gift to radical heights—so effectively, in fact, that Nihilus saps Traya's powers in a calculated double-cross. But Traya underestimates her disciples' depravity. They turn on her and drain her Force powers."



Cool: does the feat have any context? Aside from it being done in the range of an immeasurably powerful dark side nexus, was it base Nihilus? Did he consume planets beforehand to amp himself up? What's the context?

Wow, this logic... I concede. 

On a more serious note, Nihilus consuming planets doesn't "amp" him in any temporary way. It permanently amps him. Nihilus pulls this fleet out of Malachor (gravity well) before he consumes all of Katarr, as well as several other planets, therefore consuming their power. Nihilus is now more powerful than the entire Jedi Order, there's no way you can feasibly claim that Vader is more powerful than the entire fucking Jedi Order combined. Nihilus is close to a DS Nexus, yeah, but he's not so close to said nexus that he's in the center like Traya was. Traya lost to Meetra Surik. Like, the amp isn't so substantial that it overrides Nihilus' consumption of several planets afterwards. To claim so is completely disingenuous and makes no sense.
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on March 30th 2020, 12:41 pm
well the dark reaper was capable of draining moons,instakilling multiple jedi and also leading forest devastation on the kashyyyk moon so we can say its comparable to the drain nihilus uses,without mentioning that in a match after his trump card failed then vader will slain it pretty easily since the other guy is trash at sabers and other aspects of combat ability.


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on March 30th 2020, 2:16 pm
Imagine thinking RotS Vader, a peer of Darth Sidious and a superior to Darth Plagueis, would be beaten by Nihilus.

Vader slays.
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on March 30th 2020, 3:56 pm
Explain to me how it's similar. Nihilus is able to drain Kreia, who taught him this drain technique and can thus defend against it. He utterly drains her force power:

KOTOR Campaign Guide wrote:"Darth Traya indeed teaches the newly christened Darth Nihilus to harness his life-draining gift to radical heights—so effectively, in fact, that Nihilus saps Traya's powers in a calculated double-cross. But Traya underestimates her disciples' depravity. They turn on her and drain her Force powers."

Nihilus drains the Force energy of living beings. The Dark Reaper drains the Force energy of beings then releases it in devastating strikes. So yeah: it is pretty similar. If you read that quote you posted again, Traya was defeated by them combining their powers, and teaching someone to an extent then them progressing further than you'd anticipated doesn't automatically mean you're able to defend against it.


Wow, this logic... I concede. 

On a more serious note, Nihilus consuming planets doesn't "amp" him in any temporary way. It permanently amps him. Nihilus pulls this fleet out of Malachor (gravity well) before he consumes all of Katarr, as well as several other planets, therefore consuming their power. Nihilus is now more powerful than the entire Jedi Order, there's no way you can feasibly claim that Vader is more powerful than the entire fucking Jedi Order combined. Nihilus is close to a DS Nexus, yeah, but he's not so close to said nexus that he's in the center like Traya was. Traya lost to Meetra Surik. Like, the amp isn't so substantial that it overrides Nihilus' consumption of several planets afterwards. To claim so is completely disingenuous and makes no sense.

Setting aside the consuming planets argument, let's look at this:


Nihilus is now more powerful than the entire Jedi Order, there's no way you can feasibly claim that Vader is more powerful than the entire fucking Jedi Order combined.

So I assume you also believe Nihilus is stronger than Revan, Vitiate, the Outlander, Exar Kun, and potentially Valkorion, since he apparently has the combined power of countless Jedi from the "entire fucking Jedi Order" and entire planets he's drained?

Nihilus is close to a DS Nexus, yeah, but he's not so close to said nexus that he's in the center like Traya was. Traya lost to Meetra Surik. Like, the amp isn't so substantial that it overrides Nihilus' consumption of several planets afterwards. To claim so is completely disingenuous and makes no sense.

...What? 


Nihilus is close to a DS Nexus, yeah, but he's not so close to said nexus that he's in the center like Traya was.

Irrelevant. Korriban, after centuries of decline, was still potent enough its power could be felt from beyond its orbit. DK is the same, as are countless other DS nexuses. Malachor is heavily suggested to be even stronger at their peaks:

Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:"There is a place in the galaxy where the dark side of the Force runs strong. It is something of the Sith, but it was fueled by war. It corrupts all that walks on its surface—drowns them in the power of the dark side. It corrupts all life, and it feeds on death."
Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:"To walk on its surface is to feel it crushing every cell of your being. It is like being buried alive until it feels like you may never breathe again..."
Traversing its surface had been agony. Mentally, she had still sensed the anguish of all who had lost their lives there. Physically, the intense gravity of the world had held her in its crushing grip, leaving her gasping for breath. It had been the most awful and horrific experience of her life … until now.


This is after Nihilus' feat. If Korriban after centuries of decline was incredibly potent even from orbit, Malachor V's gravity well would still have allowed Nihilus to access an insanely more powerful nexus, harness its energy and use it to yank the ships out of it. So yeah, Nihilus would have been pretty massively amped.


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on March 31st 2020, 7:46 am
@darthbane77 wrote:Imagine thinking RotS Vader, a peer of Darth Sidious and a superior to Darth Plagueis, would be beaten by Nihilus.

Vader slays.
I don't know if the OP is referring to KF Vader or suited Vader?
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on March 31st 2020, 7:54 am
@SithSauce wrote:
@darthbane77 wrote:Imagine thinking RotS Vader, a peer of Darth Sidious and a superior to Darth Plagueis, would be beaten by Nihilus.

Vader slays.
I don't know if the OP is referring to KF Vader or suited Vader?

Well, prime Vader is supposed to be ROTS Anakin, or KFV you might say.
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on March 31st 2020, 9:14 am
@HellfireUnit wrote:
@SithSauce wrote:
@darthbane77 wrote:Imagine thinking RotS Vader, a peer of Darth Sidious and a superior to Darth Plagueis, would be beaten by Nihilus.

Vader slays.
I don't know if the OP is referring to KF Vader or suited Vader?

Well, prime Vader is supposed to be ROTS Anakin, or KFV you might say.
Usually people say prime Vader for suit Vader and specify KFV though. 

This could however be different of course
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on June 24th 2020, 8:30 am
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on June 24th 2020, 8:42 am
@IG wrote:Nihilus oneshots.
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on June 24th 2020, 8:50 am
Nihilus is sub Vader. There is no case you can make. My friend DarthZanos also sent me messages and gave me sources that shits on Nihilus.
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