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The God Emperor
Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 6:48 am
Rules
Who would win?
- Bloodlust is allowed
- Krayt is reborn
- Vaylin is unchained
Who would win?
NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 6:52 am
If we look at portrayal Krayt is superior to Caedus and treated as similar to Luke. If we look at feats he's stomping Cade and scaling a stomp gap or more above Kenobi. It's his game to lose really.
BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 6:55 am
Eh, Vaylin.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 6:57 am
Caedus-Luke fight was circumstantial. Vaylin also stomped both Senya and Arcann when she was gravely injured.ScionOfSkywalker77 wrote:If we look at portrayal Krayt is superior to Caedus and treated as similar to Luke. If we look at feats he's stomping Cade and scaling a stomp gap or more above Kenobi. It's his game to lose really.
GuestGuest
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:02 am
Neither of those fights is a stomp lol.
- NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:03 am
@The God Emperor:
I never said otherwise.
Which doesn't compare to Krayt's scaling off Kenobi, Cade, Caedus ect ect. Take your pick and I'll gladly explain the impressiveness of it.
@NotAA3:
The only thing we see on panel is Cade getting grounded in 2 seconds by Krayt awkwardly placing his hand on him mid duel... while not attempting to end his life. By all indication they aren't close.
Caedus-Luke fight was circumstantial.
I never said otherwise.
Vaylin also stomped both Senya and Arcann when she was gravely injured.
Which doesn't compare to Krayt's scaling off Kenobi, Cade, Caedus ect ect. Take your pick and I'll gladly explain the impressiveness of it.
@NotAA3:
This never happened...
The only thing we see on panel is Cade getting grounded in 2 seconds by Krayt awkwardly placing his hand on him mid duel... while not attempting to end his life. By all indication they aren't close.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:07 am
I think Krayt-Kenobi scaling isn't as good as easily stomping both Senya and ArcannVaylin also stomped both Senya and Arcann when she was gravely injured.
Which doesn't compare to Krayt's scaling off Kenobi, Cade, Caedus ect ect. Take your pick and I'll gladly explain the impressiveness of it.
- NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:08 am
And you're perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But can you explain why?
MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:08 am
Krayt having far greater powers than any sith in his era, including the likes of Wyyrlok, before a significant growth gives him the win, not to mention that FOTJ clearly hypes him up as a rival of Luke and a superior of Darish Vol.
The LostLevel Five
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:09 am
Vaylin dies, terrible fight for her due to how much more skilled Krayt is in addition to superior raw power. He would bury a lightsaber in her chest within a comic page, tops.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:10 am
Why not? He easily ragdolled Cade.NotAA3 wrote:Neither of those fights is a stomp lol.
- GuestGuest
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:12 am
@ScionOfSkywalker77:
>tHe OnLy ThInG wE sEe On PaNeL
>On the previous page we see Cade totally negate Krayt's TK, and close the distance between them, as he brags about his growth and mocks Krayt.
Taking the end of the fight wherein Krayt takes advantage of Cade's exposed position and finishes the fight, and ignoring the events that transpired prior is disingenuous, to say the least. Talon doesn't think Krayt can stomp Cade, so I don't see why you should either.
Krayt wanted Cade to be pushed to the brink and conquer death. While he's not aiming for a decapitation, or anything that brutal, he'll definitely take up anything less than that.
The only thing we see on panel is Cade getting grounded in 2 seconds by Krayt awkwardly placing his hand on him mid duel...
>tHe OnLy ThInG wE sEe On PaNeL
>On the previous page we see Cade totally negate Krayt's TK, and close the distance between them, as he brags about his growth and mocks Krayt.
Taking the end of the fight wherein Krayt takes advantage of Cade's exposed position and finishes the fight, and ignoring the events that transpired prior is disingenuous, to say the least. Talon doesn't think Krayt can stomp Cade, so I don't see why you should either.
while not attempting to end his life. By all indication they aren't close.
Krayt wanted Cade to be pushed to the brink and conquer death. While he's not aiming for a decapitation, or anything that brutal, he'll definitely take up anything less than that.
- GuestGuest
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:13 am
The God Emperor wrote:Why not? He easily ragdolled Cade.NotAA3 wrote:Neither of those fights is a stomp lol.
This doesn't happen in either of the scans you posted.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:15 am
Don't underestimate Vaylin's power. She was powerful enough to stomp both Senya and Arcann when she was gravely injured.ILS wrote:Vaylin dies, terrible fight for her due to how much more skilled Krayt is in addition to superior raw power. He would bury a lightsaber in her chest within a comic page, tops.
IGLevel Four
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:22 am
Krayt's scaling from Kenobi + Mega growth over Legacy + Immense Superiority over Cade (I dunno if that's a stomp or not) are things I buy as better than Vaylin at this point, though I have to replay KOTET to get a better feel for Vaylin.
So tentatively Krayt.
So tentatively Krayt.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:22 am
Both Arcann and Senya are too powerful and too skilled, especially Arcann. He was able to block Spirit of Valk's lightning for a period time. Vaylin also stomped them when she was gravely injured. I don't think that Kenobi is above Arcann.ScionOfSkywalker77 wrote:And you're perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But can you explain why?
SeturnaLevel One
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:25 am
Supreme Leader 
- GuestGuest
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:27 am
IG wrote:Krayt's scaling from Kenobi + Mega growth over Legacy + Immense Superiority over Cade (I dunno if that's a stomp or not) are things I buy as better than Vaylin at this point, though I have to replay KOTET to get a better feel for Vaylin.
So tentatively Krayt.
That he doesn't have...
- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:27 am
@The God Emperor First fight was definitely not a stomp. Neither was the second. He used dark essence or whatever it's called to incapacitate Cade. Superior, yes. Stomp level superior, no.
Also, Vaylin is an Arcann level duelist at her peak. Krayt isn't massively more skilled to the point that he can stomp her.
Also, Vaylin is an Arcann level duelist at her peak. Krayt isn't massively more skilled to the point that he can stomp her.
- The God Emperor
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:28 am
I don't think that he is a threat to Luke. And superiority to Vol is insignificant. Vol has a few feats, nobody knows how powerful he is.MasterCilghal wrote:Krayt having far greater powers than any sith in his era, including the likes of Wyyrlok, before a significant growth gives him the win, not to mention that FOTJ clearly hypes him up as a rival of Luke and a superior of Darish Vol.
- IGLevel Four
Re: Darth Krayt (Reborn) Vs. Vaylin (Unchained)
March 16th 2020, 7:30 am
I said it wasn't a stomp lol. Immense without being a stomp gap exists. Perhaps the term reasonably large superiority works better? I mean their fight isn't so close that it's Anakin v Obi-Wan, but it's no Dooku v Obi-Wan either.NotAA3 wrote:IG wrote:Krayt's scaling from Kenobi + Mega growth over Legacy + Immense Superiority over Cade (I dunno if that's a stomp or not) are things I buy as better than Vaylin at this point, though I have to replay KOTET to get a better feel for Vaylin.
So tentatively Krayt.
That he doesn't have...
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