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on February 23rd 2020, 5:29 am
Maul>Ashoka>Savage
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on May 1st 2020, 10:00 am
Bump.
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on May 1st 2020, 10:00 am
@King Joker wrote:good fight
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on May 1st 2020, 10:44 am
Maul wins on his own, assuming Rebels, but it’s close. If TCW, team dies.
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on May 1st 2020, 10:49 am
Rebels tano might win, depending on where one holds Vaders prime. 

I have Rebels tano above Dooku As of right now, but, im still hesitant to cement that placement till we learn more about where she went post rebels. 

eh.
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on May 1st 2020, 12:01 pm
Maul solos.
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on May 1st 2020, 7:19 pm
Which maul
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on May 1st 2020, 7:23 pm
@BoD wrote:We honestly can't take much from the Rebels fight. It lasted about 20 seconds. You can however refer to the original story plan, which was changed last minute.

What was the original story plan?
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on May 1st 2020, 7:27 pm
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:
@BoD wrote:We honestly can't take much from the Rebels fight. It lasted about 20 seconds. You can however refer to the original story plan, which was changed last minute.

What was the original story plan?
Maul appeared as a one-off appearance. Instead of being knocked off by Kanan, he fought Vader and died, then Vader fought Ahsoka and it continued as planned. Ezra would probably have been replaced by Maul.
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on May 1st 2020, 7:50 pm
@BoD wrote:
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:
@BoD wrote:We honestly can't take much from the Rebels fight. It lasted about 20 seconds. You can however refer to the original story plan, which was changed last minute.

What was the original story plan?
Maul appeared as a one-off appearance. Instead of being knocked off by Kanan, he fought Vader and died, then Vader fought Ahsoka and it continued as planned. Ezra would probably have been replaced by Maul.

They should've kept that fight. Maul needed less goofy moments so having him challenge Vader for a bit would've been beneficial to his performance during Rebels. The Kanan cliff scene wasn't even something I'd expect from Kylo.
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on May 1st 2020, 8:11 pm
tano dies
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on May 1st 2020, 8:27 pm
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:
@BoD wrote:
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:
@BoD wrote:We honestly can't take much from the Rebels fight. It lasted about 20 seconds. You can however refer to the original story plan, which was changed last minute.

What was the original story plan?
Maul appeared as a one-off appearance. Instead of being knocked off by Kanan, he fought Vader and died, then Vader fought Ahsoka and it continued as planned. Ezra would probably have been replaced by Maul.

They should've kept that fight. Maul needed less goofy moments so having him challenge Vader for a bit would've been beneficial to his performance during Rebels. The Kanan cliff scene wasn't even something I'd expect from Kylo.
Filoni said they thought there wasn't another emotional drama between Vader and Maul to merit a fight and it would be too fan service-y.
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on May 1st 2020, 9:18 pm
Perhaps, but Ahsoka and Maul being present by themselves could be called fanservice. 

Had the Mandalore arc been completed before Rebels aired we likely would've gotten a Maul VS Vader fight.
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on May 2nd 2020, 3:16 pm
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:Perhaps, but Ahsoka and Maul being present by themselves could be called fanservice. 
You really can't do that for Ahsoka. She was already an established part of the story and there was clear in-universe reasoning for ger getting to malachor. Maul on the other hand...yeah you could call that fan service I suppose.
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on May 2nd 2020, 3:20 pm
@Latham2000 wrote:

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This is Ahsoka as of Twilight of the Apprentice. Standard conditions. Who wins?
Rebels Ahsoka is probably well above tcw kenobi at this point. She could reasonably fodderize oppress before beating maul.
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on May 2nd 2020, 3:22 pm
@The Lost wrote:That's a cool OP picture for the bros.

Maul solos. Team destroys her.
Like they destroyed Kenobi?  Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Maul & Savage Opress - Page 2 1220391476
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on May 2nd 2020, 6:50 pm
@freethedevil wrote:

You really can't do that for Ahsoka. She was already an established part of the story and there was clear in-universe reasoning for ger getting to malachor. Maul on the other hand...yeah you could call that fan service I suppose.

Well them having her in every era now despite her not showing up in the films or even being mentioned feels like fan service. I just feel like her stories gone on for way too long.
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on May 2nd 2020, 7:07 pm
Rebels Ahsoka is probably well above tcw kenobi at this point. She could reasonably fodderize oppress before beating maul.

The only character that has ever fodderised Savage is Sidious. Even Dooku had some trouble with him, despite being far superior. Rebels Ahsoka isn't stomping him considering the 5th Brother's performance against her.
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on May 2nd 2020, 7:34 pm
Obi Wan pretty much fodderised Savage on Florrum
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on May 3rd 2020, 8:16 pm
@TheNuisanceBird wrote:
@freethedevil wrote:

You really can't do that for Ahsoka. She was already an established part of the story and there was clear in-universe reasoning for ger getting to malachor. Maul on the other hand...yeah you could call that fan service I suppose.

Well them having her in every era now despite her not showing up in the films or even being mentioned feels like fan service. I just feel like her stories gone on for way too long.
Her voice being in ros is definitely fan service
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on May 3rd 2020, 8:19 pm
@BoD wrote:
Rebels Ahsoka is probably well above tcw kenobi at this point. She could reasonably fodderize oppress before beating maul.

The only character that has ever fodderised Savage is Sidious. 
Kenobi fodderized oppress in florrum switching from his preferred soresu to ataru with the aid of two lightsabers. Ahsoka is much more powerful, prefers ataru, and already has two lightsabers.

Suggesting she couldn't win here is silly.
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on May 4th 2020, 9:19 am
Kenobi didn't fodderize Opress on Florrum, that's a hyperbole. He was beating him decisively though.
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on May 5th 2020, 5:25 pm
@Latham2000 wrote:Kenobi didn't fodderize Opress on Florrum, that's a hyperbole. He was beating him decisively though.
Beating him decisively while having the upperhand on a vastly more skilled teammate is fodderizing for all practical purposes. Ahsoka is both better suited to do what Kenobi did on florrum and is significantly more powerful. The question is whether Maul could use oppress as a distraction to use the force in a decisive way. I find that dubious given Ahsoka is much more powerful relative to maul than tcw kenobi was.
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on May 5th 2020, 5:28 pm
@BoD wrote:
Rebels Ahsoka is probably well above tcw kenobi at this point. She could reasonably fodderize oppress before beating maul.

The only character that has ever fodderised Savage is Sidious. Even Dooku had some trouble with him, despite being far superior. Rebels Ahsoka isn't stomping him considering the 5th Brother's performance against her.
The 5th brother and ahsoka's blades clashed three times over the course of the episode. She literally took him out in 5 seconds in her first rebels appearance. There seems to be a lot of revisionist history regarding just what ahsoka did vs the inqusitors. In rebels we see her stomping two inqusitors, then we see her fighting two inqusitors simiulataeously for 5 seconds. Then she clases blades with one inqusitor three times, before disarming him and giving maul an open kill.


It's a pretty pathetic attempt at lowballing, really.
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on May 5th 2020, 9:17 pm
The 5th brother and ahsoka's blades clashed three times over the course of the episode. She literally took him out in 5 seconds in her first rebels appearance. There seems to be a lot of revisionist history regarding just what ahsoka did vs the inqusitors. In rebels we see her stomping two inqusitors, then we see her fighting two inqusitors simiulataeously for 5 seconds. Then she clases blades with one inqusitor three times, before disarming him and giving maul an open kill.


It's a pretty pathetic attempt at lowballing, really.

Not at all. The Inquisitors' most dangerous quality is their ability to adapt. Against new opponents, they're utterly outmatched, such as with Ahsoka. However, given time they learn to adapt and counter that opponent, as they did against Kanan and Ahsoka. They're still clearly outmatched, but they can't be stomped like they were before. Not to mention the Fifth was bullrushing her in their first fight rather than relying on technique. 

Also, watch the fight again. Kanan was fighting the Eighth Brother while Ahsoka was fighting the Fifth. 

How is it lowballing to say Ahsoka can't stomp a character who is physically stronger, and at this point has experience against Jar'Kai practitioners (I'll let you figure out which character in this battle also shares these qualities)?
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