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Unchained Vaylin vs MFV Empty Unchained Vaylin vs MFV

on February 15th 2020, 4:48 am
Who wins?
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on February 15th 2020, 5:10 am
Vader is too powerful and skilled for Vaylin to handle.
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on February 15th 2020, 5:55 am
Mustafar Vader is below RotS Kenobi so Unchained Vaylin take this
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on February 15th 2020, 6:43 am
Hindered MFV gets ragdolled, but unhindered takes 10/10
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on February 15th 2020, 1:01 pm
Hindered MFV goes down hard, unhindered wins in a good to great fight.
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on February 15th 2020, 2:28 pm
Vader just steamrolls
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on February 15th 2020, 2:39 pm
@BoD wrote:Hindered MFV goes down hard, unhindered wins in a good to great fight.
How is MFV hindered?
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on February 15th 2020, 2:47 pm
@Jacen wrote:
@BoD wrote:Hindered MFV goes down hard, unhindered wins in a good to great fight.
How is MFV hindered?
Losing to Kenobi.
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on February 15th 2020, 2:52 pm
vader ragdolls
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Unchained Vaylin vs MFV Empty Re: Unchained Vaylin vs MFV

on February 15th 2020, 2:54 pm
@IG: You didn't answer my question.

@Jacen wrote:How is MFV hindered?
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on February 15th 2020, 3:09 pm
@Jacen wrote:@IG: You didn't answer my question.

@Jacen wrote:How is MFV hindered?
His mindset and mindless rage plummet him from Sidious level to Kenobi level. It's quite simple.
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on February 15th 2020, 3:14 pm
@IG: Citation needed.
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on February 15th 2020, 4:39 pm
There's about half a dozen sources saying Anakin was erratic and unfocused, and unable to bring his full strength to bear out of his guilt over betraying the Jedi/Padme/Obi-Wan and fighting his "brother".
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on February 15th 2020, 4:48 pm
Again, citations needed. There are statements directly from the novelization refuting that.
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on February 15th 2020, 5:03 pm
@Jacen wrote:There are statements directly from the novelization refuting that.

That’s a double standard, you asked him for citations but provided none for your claim. 

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also, citation needed
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on February 15th 2020, 5:51 pm
Yeah citations needed for those "half a dozen sources" please.

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on February 15th 2020, 6:01 pm
I love how everyone on SI says ”citation needed” this last week lul
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Unchained Vaylin vs MFV Empty Re: Unchained Vaylin vs MFV

on February 15th 2020, 6:16 pm
@MasterCilghal wrote:
@Jacen wrote:There are statements directly from the novelization refuting that.

That’s a double standard, you asked him for citations but provided none for your claim. 

Spoiler:
also, citation needed
Unchained Vaylin vs MFV 1668617588 It’s not a double standard when I asked before I made that comment, and they continued not providing citations. 

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Still waiting on citations.
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on February 16th 2020, 3:06 am
Statements saying MFV grew in power doesn't preclude him also being applicably weaker due to his mental state
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on February 16th 2020, 3:07 am
I'm not aware of any evidence suggesting that Vaylin can defeat a mouldy festering vagina.
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on February 16th 2020, 6:15 am
@KingofBlades wrote:Statements saying MFV grew in power doesn't preclude him also being applicably weaker due to his mental state

Him being a tier 9 combatively kinda does though

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on February 16th 2020, 6:23 am
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I haven't seen a single statement that explicitly says that Vader was weakened

Like, not one single statement. The only reason this notion even exists is because people can't believe that Obi Wan can compete with him( probably again due to outdated notions that Dooku can stomp him etc.)
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on February 16th 2020, 6:36 am
And the stuff about them knowing each others styles. But none of that matters. Fact is, whatever hindrances Anakin had mentally would have had a minimal effect on the individual strength of his blows in the moment he threw them. While mental hindrances factor into battles in the bigger picture, it's honestly kind of silly to try and take it to the micro level. Vader was bending Obi-Wan's forearm bones through sheer strength before Obi-Wan let go, then he was defending himself from not only Vader's strength but his TK. If Dooku were in Obi-Wan's shoes his arms would have fallen off.
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on February 16th 2020, 7:41 am
@ILS wrote:And the stuff about them knowing each others styles. But none of that matters. Fact is, whatever hindrances Anakin had mentally would have had a minimal effect on the individual strength of his blows in the moment he threw them. While mental hindrances factor into battles in the bigger picture, it's honestly kind of silly to try and take it to the micro level. Vader was bending Obi-Wan's forearm bones through sheer strength before Obi-Wan let go, then he was defending himself from not only Vader's strength but his TK. If Dooku were in Obi-Wan's shoes his arms would have fallen off.

Not to mention, Obi Wan notes that Anakin has become too strong and just some days ago, has also seen Dooku's weapon smashed into his body by Anakin

I am not sure that Vader against Kenobi is better than his best version, but that goes some way in him being above the enraged IH Anakin
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Holistically, MFV(I'll be arguing unhindered here) should be more powerful. He has far far greater potential with a similar amount of time to actualize said potential. Of course Vader is so supremely skilled that even if she was his equal or marginal superior in power, Vader would dissect Vaylin in a duel.
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