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on February 12th 2020, 10:29 am
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on February 12th 2020, 10:42 am
Krayt solos with impunity.

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on February 12th 2020, 11:04 am
Leaning team 1.
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on February 12th 2020, 11:27 am
Vaylin stalls Krayt long enough for Arcann to take Caedus.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:44 pm
Krayt beats Vaylin and Caedus beats Arcann.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:45 pm
@Corvinus wrote:Krayt beats Vaylin and Caedus beats Arcann.
Based on what? Arcann beats Caedus.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:49 pm
@IG Both or just the latter? Vaylin can one shot Arcann. She certainly can't do that to Caedus.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:52 pm
Why exactly is caedus>Arcann?

What do you base your arguement on?
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on February 12th 2020, 1:55 pm
@Seturna What I said.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:55 pm
@Corvinus wrote:@IG Both or just the latter? Vaylin can one shot Arcann. She certainly can't do that to Caedus.
Vaylin can oneshot Caedus tbh. She's probably more powerful than Krayt but his far superior Mastery will allow him to win. But Arcann takes Caedus and then the pair can take Krayt together.
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on February 12th 2020, 1:57 pm
@Corvinus

I meant more like why vaylin can’t one-shot caedus but could arcann?
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on February 12th 2020, 2:17 pm
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Vaylin would have to be equal or superior in power to Luke in order to one shot Caedus. Since she loses to Valkorion multiple times this clearly isn't the case. This also puts her below Krayt in power.
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on February 12th 2020, 2:19 pm
@Corvinus wrote:@IG
@Seturna

Vaylin would have to be equal or superior in power to Luke in order to one shot Caedus. Since she loses to Valkorion multiple times this clearly isn't the case. This also puts her below Krayt in power.
Why would Vaylin have to be near Luke? Luke literally isn't going full power ever when he fights Caedus, it's just completely incorrect. Krayt isn't near Valk or Luke either, so I don't know what you're going on about.
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on February 12th 2020, 2:28 pm
@IG Where else has Caedus been shown up like he was against Luke? Even then Caedus had no time to raise a Force barrier, as he wasn't expecting the attack at all. And Krayt is a lot closer to Luke in power than he is to Valkorion based on their 2 on 1 fight against Abeloth in the realm of beyond shadows.
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on February 12th 2020, 2:32 pm
Krayt could very likely be amped by the pool iirc


And besides that specific feat, what does krayt have on valk?
Valk literally ragdolled two mace level opponents or above
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on February 12th 2020, 2:53 pm
@Seturna That's fanon. Both Luke and Jacen had dreams of Krayt years before the event and recognised him as the Dark Man sitting on the Throne of Balance.
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on February 12th 2020, 2:57 pm
There wasn’t really a lot of sith to count on at that time
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on February 12th 2020, 3:10 pm
@Seturna wrote:Valk literally ragdolled two mace level opponents or above

Citation needed.

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on February 12th 2020, 3:11 pm
@Azronger wrote:
@Seturna wrote:Valk literally ragdolled two mace level opponents or above

Citation needed.
It's not an objective fact. It's where Seeker holds Outlander and Vaylin respectively--tiers 8 bordering on 9
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on February 12th 2020, 3:15 pm
As IG said
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on February 12th 2020, 3:33 pm
Why does he hold them there, then (I assume Seeker is Seturna)?

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on February 12th 2020, 3:44 pm
@Seturna wrote:There wasn’t really a lot of sith to count on at that time
Just a whole (hundreds strong? thousands?) tribe of them that dates from the time Naga Sadow was around, and Vergere who had a guiding hand in training Jacen Solo, grandson of a guy who had the dormant power of a celestial to rule all celestials, who happened to inherit a decent whack of his power.
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on February 12th 2020, 4:45 pm
Vaylin is a borderline tier 9 imo simply because she hasn't got the mental side nailed down. Her power is up there, and her skill should be an 8/9. Outlander should be a very low 9 by EoKOTET, but neither are Mace level at this point.
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on February 13th 2020, 1:45 am
Out of interest, what are Vaylin's best two power feats by her supporters' reckoning?
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on February 13th 2020, 5:48 am
@ILS wrote:Out of interest, what are Vaylin's best two power feats by her supporters' reckoning?
Accolades aside, 

Chained: Breaking free of Valkorion's Force grip and dominating chapter 3 Outlander (a KOTFE Arcann+ level character).
Unchained: From orbit, reaching across a void that could all but nullify most being's connection to the Force and overloading generators, and one-shotting Arcann, Senya and spirit Valkorion while also being confirmed to be > chapter 8 Outlander.
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