Re: Best debaters

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:03 pm

ILS wrote:I'm not a fan of ranking and comparing debaters, but I want to give special praise to my dear friend @Azronger. He started his illustrious career as a bit of a wildcard, a dark, mysterious entity who trafficked in esoteric and unnatural arguments, ushering in an age of ruthless, authorial-intent-blind scaling logic which left no stone unturned and looked incredulity in the face with a smile. He has always been someone comfortable with pushing the timid boundaries we place on methodology, and successfully fused his dogmatically consistent death-of-the-author methodology with unmatched creativity and novelty in the crafting of arguments - his ruthless adherence to having no sacred ideas has given him greater freedom than any of us. Certainly, some of his craziest ideas - and they have been truly outlandish - have not always been confirmed, but along the way to forming those ideas he tended to make extremely interesting, innovative discoveries and connections within the lore that I doubt we would ever have come upon without him. As time has gone on, he has gone from just being a memetic force of nature to one of the best debaters ever to put the gloves on, and during my most recent stint of debating, he's come up with a number of extremely innovative and salient arguments across a variety of eras and mediums despite the fact we have collectively milked them dry and researched them to death. In my own efforts to make new discoveries, I've often turned to Az to see if he has any new insights to bolster my own ideas, and more than a handful of times in the past year or so I've slowly come around to some of Az's arguments I previously thought were too outlandish to defend. I truly think he's ahead of the curve and, in his own right, has helped define an entirely new era of Star Wars debating. I would go as far as to say he has long surpassed me: more consistent, more original arguments, broader knowledge, and frankly superiority in areas like logic, post formatting and winning debates. If anything I would say it's my turn to refine my own skills, and increase my own knowledge, so that I can return the favours he has done for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcydqSpYN00&t=40s

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:11 pm

azronger>all tbh

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:25 pm

Azronger is the king of Sheevites.

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:11 pm Message reputation : 100% (4 votes)

this pretty accurately sums up how I feel about the most recent wave of debaters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfE9vjK29M

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:27 pm

Yeah fortnite is trash.

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:33 pm

ILS wrote:this pretty accurately sums up how I feel about the most recent wave of debaters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfE9vjK29M

Who do you count as the most recent wave, though?

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:49 pm

BoD wrote:

ILS wrote:this pretty accurately sums up how I feel about the most recent wave of debaters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfE9vjK29M

Who do you count as the most recent wave, though?

the thread makers

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:58 pm

That's very unspecific... there's a lot of people who make a lot of threads. Though, I suspect I'm probably included in the new wave which makes me sad, cause I really have no desire to be shot. Best debaters - Page 13 1648373583

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:00 pm Message reputation : 100% (1 vote)

NotAA3 wrote:That's very unspecific... there's a lot of people who make a lot of threads. Though, I suspect, I'm probably included in the new wave which makes me sad, cause I really have no desire to be shot.

You're like two waves of debaters deep at this point

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:02 pm

I've escaped the shooting. Best debaters - Page 13 4233314142

on Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:16 pm

NotAA3 wrote:That's very unspecific... there's a lot of people who make a lot of threads. Though, I suspect, I'm probably included in the new wave which makes me sad, cause I really have no desire to be shot.

pretty sure he means me and and LOH lol albeit, i havent made a thread in a little bit

on Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:11 am

Cheth wrote:

@Trayus Marauder wrote:Based on what I've seen, I'd say Azronger and DarthAnt66 are among the best out there.

The worst are all individuals that don't come from any of the groups listed

I'll let that slide without taking offense since you probaly haven't seen me debate yet ;D.

Onto the purpose of this thread, I'm not too familiar with most of the debaters here. I mostly know Amino debaters and like one CV debater (that being Ant), so i don't think i can add much to this thread. But since I've got nothing to do anyways I will.

Best debaters: Vaner Shan (you won't know him), Marc and Ant

Worst: Js (aka Blade of Dorin)

Spoiler:
Just kidding, Js is great and he knows I know it

on Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:34 am

@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:

NotAA3 wrote:Good. I hope you get shot.

dont talk about ILS like that

I didn't say anything about ILS though.

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:26 pm Message reputation : 100% (3 votes)

My love letter to ILS.

this will be short but sweet.

ILS has been debating since 2012 and it has been a pleasure to read some of his older debates and see how far he has come. Everyone enters this atmosphere and changes somewhat, for better or for worse, more bias or less bias something usually happens to change perception.

Not so with ILS, at least not a drastic change. ILS is knowledgeable on all of the verse but personally dosen't take sides in era supremacy most of the time. His methodology differs from everyone else's in that it takes into account the strengths and weaknesses of each character's motives and styles (how they view and apply combative tactics) and works them against each other to reach natural conclusions. No other person on the forum has achieved this single mastery and understanding of the lore's combative scenarios or at least they don't debate it to the same extent. If not for ILS's Analytical studies of Maul and how he functions, Maul would have been lost to lowballing long ago. For the longest time there was an entire brigade led strong to try and rob Maul of his placement and ILS and a few others seemed to quell the arguments time and time again. While I don't agree with his assessment of Maul nor do I fully agree with his arguments regarding Krayt, it is impossible not to recognize the consistent excellent quality he puts out on a regular basis.

These unique reasons are why ILS is one of if not the greatest at versus debating.

Keep up the good work. Best debaters - Page 13 228124001

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:50 pm

I'll take it

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:05 pm

yep ILS is one of the best debaters in here

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:11 pm Message reputation : 100% (1 vote)

ISV stop being a brown noser

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:40 pm

ISV, that very nice of u, but was that essay actually necessary? u couldve just said "ILS is good imo" lol

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:41 pm

He wants a head pat

on Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:01 pm

KelDorianUnit wrote:He wants a head pat

for once, i kinda agree with u

on Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:18 am Message reputation : 100% (3 votes)

Macial

Bart

Ant

on Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:21 am

@HellfireUnit wrote:Tier 10 ) Sheev walking among mere mortals

> Noone yet but probably Silver is close. His knowledge impressed me the most

Tier 9 ) Debaters with insane skill and knowledge

Ant
Az
Elm
Gideon

Tier 8 ) Very knowledgeable and capable debaters

Grey
ILS
QD

Tier 7 ) These people mastered the EU and are skilled debaters

BoD
DC77
MC
Xolthol

Tier 6 - These people know quite much about EU and promise future

HP
IG
KoB
MP
O-Siri

Tier 5 - Normies

AP
Curry

Tier 4 - People who know about EU but should improve their interpretation skills before debating

EC

Tier 3 - Knows about EU but incapable of debating

MyGod

Tier 2 - Kathleen Kennedy

Erkan12

Will add/remove/adjust some stuff later.

hmm, outdated and cringe list, I have made.

on Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:32 pm

Curry is supreme.

on Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:14 pm

curry top 6

on Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:59 pm

I don’t debate, I just state facts