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on January 27th 2020, 9:31 am
Stip: Morals are OFF For Luke, Morals are ON for Vader. 
Distance apart: 35 Meters 
Location: The ruins of Jocasta Nu's Jedi holocron Cache.
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on January 27th 2020, 9:40 am
morals on for vader and he loses lol we've seen that already hahaah
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on January 27th 2020, 9:44 am
What...? 

Luke already won...
Jedi_Jesus
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on January 27th 2020, 9:47 am
IG (Exists) wrote:What...? 

Luke already won...
Vader is > his ROTJ self, per the ESB novel that notes him being at  the height of his powers. 
While we dont know how much, i thought it was worth looking at if you feel vader fully surpassed his fathers prime as of ROTJ.
Underachiever599
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on January 27th 2020, 5:01 pm
@Jedi_Jesus wrote:
IG (Exists) wrote:What...? 

Luke already won...
Vader is > his ROTJ self, per the ESB novel that notes him being at  the height of his powers. 
While we dont know how much, i thought it was worth looking at if you feel vader fully surpassed his fathers prime as of ROTJ.
I think you've misunderstood the ESB novel. Vader was at the height of his powers, compared to any point prior in his life. That doesn't mean his powers were going to decline after that point. the RotJ novel confirms RotJ is his prime, with Vader feeling more powerful than ever while in the presence of Sidious. On top of that, Shadows of the Empire displays Vader clearly continuing to grow in ability.

RotJ Vader > ESB Vader > Any other point in Vader's life.


With all that said, Luke has an easier time here than he did in the movie, especially with morals being off.
AlakanSpacewalker
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on February 2nd 2020, 11:17 pm
I have a question: did Vader hold back in canon? I know he didn’t in Legends but Disney seems to hate Luke (watch TLJ) and wants to make him as weak as possible.
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on February 3rd 2020, 12:29 am
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@AlakanSpacewalker wrote:I have a question: did Vader hold back in canon? I know he didn’t in Legends but Disney seems to hate Luke (watch TLJ) and wants to make him as weak as possible.
We have no evidence that he held back in Canon. No source I know of (and I primarily own Canon sources, not Legends ones) make mention of Vader holding back. And Beware the Power of the Dark Side! seems to imply Vader was actually fighting above his normal ability, drawing "additional strength" from his fear of Luke during the final bout of the duel. At best, an argument could be made that Vader was mildly hindered from his internal conflict, but depending on your interpretation of Beware the Power of the Dark Side! Vader may have been able to block out the conflict using the dark side. This would let him avoid being hindered the way Kylo Ren was hindered in TFA.
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on February 3rd 2020, 8:13 am
@AlakanSpacewalker wrote:I have a question: did Vader hold back in canon? I know he didn’t in Legends but Disney seems to hate Luke (watch TLJ) and wants to make him as weak as possible.
Canon: No.
Legends: Yes and no.
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on February 3rd 2020, 11:34 am
@Jedi_Jesus wrote:
IG (Exists) wrote:What...? 

Luke already won...
Vader is > his ROTJ self, per the ESB novel that notes him being at  the height of his powers. 
While we dont know how much, i thought it was worth looking at if you feel vader fully surpassed his fathers prime as of ROTJ.

Can you give me the quote for where that’s stated?
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