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Bossk vs Arc Trooper Empty Bossk vs Arc Trooper

on January 12th 2020, 7:12 pm
Both get standard equipment. They fight in the Jedi Temple, no outside help.

1. One Arc Trooper
2. How many would it take to bring down Bossk?
3. One Null-Arc Trooper
4. How many Nulls would it take to bring down Bossk?
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on January 12th 2020, 7:35 pm
I dont know anything about ARC troopers other than that Bossk clears
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on March 26th 2020, 5:10 pm
An ARC should be able to kill Bossk, especially if one of the ones trained by Jango.  This may actually be a close contest, but asking how many Nulls would it take to kill Bossk is like asking how many suped-up Jango's it would take to kill Bossk.  Basically just as who wins:  Jango or Bossk.  There's your answer.

FYI:  In Shatterpoint, Mace called Jango a "perfect killer."  Now take the perfect killer and put him on steroids and give him an uncharted intellect. That is a Null.

......EDIT.....
Even the ARCs were afraid of Nulls.  

Commandos were afraid of ARCs.  ARC and Null troopers worked alone and not in units, which I am adding because ILS says he doesn't know about them.  ARCs are like super spy, navy seal, macguyver, hacker, survivalist, expert killer, tracker,  wrapped in one package and trained by Jango Fett.  NULLs are physically larger and have IQ's that can't be measured.  They scare everyone who knows about them.  Bossk would not survive a NULL ARC.   They were the first clones created, and the Kaminoans did not alter them to be calm and orderly and to take orders.  They were pure Jango and insanely intelligent and larger, stronger, faster.  The Kaminoans decided to kill them because they were uncontrollable, but six were saved by Skirata.


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on March 26th 2020, 5:14 pm
Nulls don't scale from jango at all. Jango has better training and more applications of using his body in combat. Consider that Kal skirata is far inferior to Jango as a mandalorian and considered Jango to be much better than himself at just about everything. 

OT, Bossk blitzed s3 Obi-wan and fought toe to toe with Luke, Bossk can take about 4 nulls before ge gets overwhelmed, the strength deficit is really high though, bossk kills wookies h2h and shreds durasteel like It's nothing. His skin is almost blaster-proof and he can fight through injuries that would include most. Bossk beats the nulls unless more than 4 gang up on him
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on March 26th 2020, 5:17 pm
Oh and Alphas he can take up to like 8
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on March 26th 2020, 5:23 pm
@> Korriban wrote:Nulls don't scale from jango at all. Jango has better training and more applications of using his body in combat. Consider that Kal skirata is far inferior to Jango as a mandalorian and considered Jango to be much better than himself at just about everything. 

OT, Bossk blitzed s3 Obi-wan and fought toe to toe with Luke, Bossk can take about 4 nulls before ge gets overwhelmed, the strength deficit is really high though, bossk kills wookies h2h and shreds durasteel like It's nothing. His skin is almost blaster-proof and he can fight through injuries that would include most. Bossk beats the nulls unless more than 4 gang up on him

What do you mean they don't scale from Jango? 

In addition to that, ARC's and Nulls are trained to kill Jedi.  

"bossk can take about 4 nulls"....... omg.  :serious eyeroll"   if you are discussing purely hand to hand, then i do not know. however, bossk is an idiot compared to these guys.  nulls have some of the highest intellects in the entire galaxy.  these guys, by themselves, held off ... how many was it, isv? how many clone troopers on coruscant?   skirata had to be called in so the nulls would stop killing everybody.
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on March 26th 2020, 5:26 pm
@> Korriban wrote:Oh and Alphas he can take up to like 8
Oh, I see.  We're trolling.  Nice, ISV.  

lol You got me.
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on March 26th 2020, 5:35 pm
I'm not trolling, I'm dead serious, Jango's skill and use of his body is far greater than anything the nulls have. They have not had over 44 years of brutal real mandalorian training and Jedi hunting assignments. Bossk on the other hand blitzed a superior Kenobi to the one Jango was having a rousing duel with and just flattened him. He hunts WOOKIES! It would make sense for him to be as broken as he is, hell basic trandoshans can compete with Ahsoka, the leader of that group physically overpowered her and those guys are not as revered or respected or skilled as Bossk who is the best of the best of his species.
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on March 26th 2020, 5:42 pm
Bossk  can't handle his emotions.  Boba consistently put Bossk in his place, even from the time he was a kid, and at that time, he didn't have nearly the training and experience a Null had.

Using Skirata as a scale was a poor choice.  Knowledge is not the same thing as ability or power.
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on March 26th 2020, 5:46 pm
ahsoka purposely didn't use her full ability.

killing wookies...what is the point here? again, are they going hand to hand with no weapons.  just clawing at each other?  i think that their intellect is a larger advantage than what you are giving them.  and seriously, a young boba could deal with bossk.
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on March 26th 2020, 5:59 pm
1. Could see case for either side
2. 1-2
3. Null 
4. 1
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on March 26th 2020, 6:03 pm
@Nute_Chethray wrote:1. Could see case for either side
2. 1-2
3. Null 
4. 1
I'd agree in that it depends on the ARC and their training.  I think 2 ARCs would definitely do the job.
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on March 26th 2020, 6:16 pm
@Heathen wrote:Bossk  can't handle his emotions.  Boba consistently put Bossk in his place, even from the time he was a kid, and at that time, he didn't have nearly the training and experience a Null had.

Using Skirata as a scale was a poor choice.  Knowledge is not the same thing as ability or power.

Incorrect. Boba was noted to have "all the skills of his father" and as you know, dodges Durge's attacks and hangs with Aurra sing before the end of his career where he was fighting even with Mace Windu.

Skirata can't teach them the techniques Jango knows was the point, The lethality of Jango fett's physicals means nothing unless you know how to throw the punch correctly, and in this case I don't think they know "how to open a man's throat" with their bare hands.

but even still, I just dislike people trying to say there was an army of Jango level beings running around, they were not at all the same, one has better feats and scales from all his clones physically while having more knowledge and more gear. The nulls are enhanced physically yes, so they get access to the strength feats, but nothing in Jango's arsenal tells me he can tangle with a wookie like Bossk does. Bossk has over 500 wookie kills under his belt and actually stranded himself on Kashyyyk hunting them for years like it was a vacation home. Now, we also have quotes saying that Bossk "prefers" to get up close and personal with all his prey "using his bare claws." So we can deduce logically that Bossk has definitely killed a few wookies in his time and like I said the average members of the species stomp Padawans and overpower s4 Ahsoka.
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on March 26th 2020, 6:23 pm
quick question... the arcs were scared of the nulls, even the ones taught by jango.  if the nulls knew nothing of jango's techniques, then why were the arcs so scared of them?
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on March 26th 2020, 6:38 pm
@Heathen wrote:quick question... the arcs were scared of the nulls, even the ones taught by jango.  if the nulls knew nothing of jango's techniques, then why were the arcs so scared of them?

Because they single handedly held off an army for a few days. we also see though that two Arcs can tangle with one null, the only difference is that Nulls fight dirtier.
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on March 26th 2020, 7:00 pm
@> Korriban wrote:
@Heathen wrote:quick question... the arcs were scared of the nulls, even the ones taught by jango.  if the nulls knew nothing of jango's techniques, then why were the arcs so scared of them?

Because they single handedly held off an army for a few days. we also see though that two Arcs can tangle with one null, the only difference is that Nulls fight dirtier.
sooooooo........... dude.  seriously.  do you not see a flaw in this part of your argument?
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on March 27th 2020, 7:49 am
@> Korriban wrote:
@Heathen wrote:quick question... the arcs were scared of the nulls, even the ones taught by jango.  if the nulls knew nothing of jango's techniques, then why were the arcs so scared of them?

Because they single handedly held off an army for a few days. we also see though that two Arcs can tangle with one null, the only difference is that Nulls fight dirtier.
I may of course be wrong. But I do not recall two Alphas fighting one null, and I think you might have mistaken the fight between two commandos and one alpha (Darman and Atin fighting Sull), in which yes, Sull fought dirtier. 

But one also has remember the circumstances, in which Sull was caught unprepared and the fight started with Atin charging into him and making him fall to the floor. Sull was pretty much stuck to the floor before he realised he was in a fight. Hardly a fight showing them under perfect circumstances either. 

It should also be noted that a better show of difference between Alphas and Nulls is how Ordo (Null) knocked out Maze (alpha) in two punches, while Ordo let Maze hit him repeatedly over the course of several minutes and he still remained rather unphazed (not entirely, but nothing more than dizzyness).
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on March 27th 2020, 8:12 am
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Null RT timing tbh
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on March 27th 2020, 11:59 am
1-bossk 
2-2
3-null
4-1


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on March 27th 2020, 6:05 pm
@The lord of hunger wrote:1-bossk 
2-2-4
3-null
4-3
YOU KNOW NOTHING, homeless lord.
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on March 27th 2020, 6:06 pm
Bossk is a little bitch.
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on March 27th 2020, 6:41 pm
@ILS wrote:Null RT timing tbh

I'll probably get to it...eventually, though first an Alpha-ARC would need to be done. Just haven't had much time or the drive lately.
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on March 27th 2020, 9:36 pm
@Zenwolf wrote:
@ILS wrote:Null RT timing tbh

I'll probably get to it...eventually, though first an Alpha-ARC would need to be done. Just haven't had much time or the drive lately.
It otay.  I need to do one.  I can get it started.  @">Korriban" Want to help?   @> Korriban  @> Korriban

@zenwolf don't forget to add that Alpha-17 became Rex.
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on March 27th 2020, 10:43 pm
@Heathen wrote:
@The lord of hunger wrote:1-bossk 
2-2-4
3-null
4-3
YOU KNOW NOTHING, homeless lord.
Curious to know how i know nothing,besides isv s post convinced me enough.... so anything else to say that rather posting insults and getting mad for like nothing?
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on March 27th 2020, 11:27 pm
@The lord of hunger wrote:
@Heathen wrote:
@The lord of hunger wrote:1-bossk 
2-2-4
3-null
4-3
YOU KNOW NOTHING, homeless lord.
Curious to know how i know nothing,besides isv s post convinced me enough.... so anything else to say that rather posting insults and getting mad for like nothing?
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allow me to correct myself, ISV knows nothing.  you are a cute little lemur.

trust me.  i'm not mad.   Bossk vs Arc Trooper 2266747095  Bossk vs Arc Trooper 2257779481
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