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Blade_of_Dorin
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 11th 2019, 10:46 am
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Dolph
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 11th 2019, 11:47 am
Qui Gon, with no trouble.
Sjuttiosju
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 11th 2019, 2:19 pm
ESB Luke's superiority to Ben and his solid performance against Vader lead me to believe he could take this.
The Witness
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on December 11th 2019, 3:56 pm
DC77 (Reborn) wrote:ESB Luke's superiority to Ben and his solid performance against Vader lead me to believe he could take this.
Quote for him being superior to Ben?
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 11th 2019, 4:01 pm
@The Witness I believe it's from a draft of the final script where Vader says he gave him a better fight (not that that's saying much considering Ben was losing to a hindered ANH Vader, and is also long before Vader began facing actual Jedi in the EU).
The Witness
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on December 11th 2019, 5:25 pm
OK if the final script says Luke gave Vader a better fight than Ben, then what the hell is this Ben Kenobi>Vader kriff that's been plaguing the site?
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 11th 2019, 5:32 pm
“You have been learning, you’re young and quick, you offer me better sport than the old man.”

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O-Siri
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 12:25 pm
Experience beats youth in this instance. Qui-Gon is likely a better head-to-head fighter than Vader and he would be quick to exploit Luke's mistakes born from inexperience much as he did against Xanatos.
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 12:49 pm
Qui-Gon without a shadow of a doubt.
HellfireUnit
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 12:51 pm
Jinn wastes him.
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 4:39 pm
Luke contending with Vader+being superior to Ben gives him the edge imo.
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 4:53 pm
@The Apprentice Alright, that does it. I'm doing that Vader misconceptions thread.
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on December 15th 2019, 5:00 pm
Or.... Vader is simply the most overrated fighter on this, and many other, boards (along with Caedus) because he stuggles with a guy who barely budges an x wing, and Qui Gon is actually someone who'd mince Vader, given that the suited wretch has troubles pivoting his feet?  

Qui gon wins as intended by Lucas, see tpm commentary.


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O-Siri
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ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn Empty Re: ESB Luke vs Qui-Gon Jinn

on December 15th 2019, 5:02 pm
Ben was just a done washed-up old man by then. He could barely keep pace with a tentative Vader in a low-intensity tactical fight. Jinn could easily outwork and outhustle washed-up Kenobi and wear him down with sustained aggression.
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