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May 8th 2019, 1:06 pm
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Plo Koon as of Revenge of the Sith
Shaak Ti as of The Force Unleashed
Darth Nihl and Talon as of Legacy:War

R1: Sabers
R2: Force
R3: All Out
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May 8th 2019, 1:11 pm
Jedi. Ultimately Talon & Nihl are a bit outmatched here, but should put up a good fight.
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May 8th 2019, 1:51 pm
Jedi.
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May 8th 2019, 10:57 pm
Jedi sweep ez
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May 8th 2019, 11:37 pm
Jedi, Ti is MVP.
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May 9th 2019, 4:23 am
Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.
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May 9th 2019, 4:31 am
Leaning towards the sith honestly.
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May 9th 2019, 7:54 am
mastercilghal wrote:Leaning towards the sith honestly.

Me too. I'd say they are inferior duelists, but their force powers are enough to take the win.
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May 9th 2019, 9:11 am
Nihl would have a close fight with either of the Jedi. Talon wouldn't last as long. Nihl will eventually find himself facing both Jedi, and so Plo and Shaak take this.
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May 9th 2019, 10:01 am
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
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May 9th 2019, 10:18 am
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.
Well I mean, Plo Koon did demonstrate his solid superiority over Savage before Savage cheapshotted him

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May 9th 2019, 10:48 am
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
I don't understand why they are to be given the "benefit of the doubt" - can you expand on that?
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May 9th 2019, 10:55 am
Nihl vs Talon, who wins?

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May 9th 2019, 10:59 am
Nihl.
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May 9th 2019, 11:28 am
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
I don't understand why they are to be given the "benefit of the doubt" - can you expand on that?

Essentially, I'm willing to take Koon's rough parity with Savage and general accolades to indicate superiority to Nihl & Talon, even though I'm not confident on it.
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May 9th 2019, 11:41 am
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
I don't understand why they are to be given the "benefit of the doubt" - can you expand on that?

Essentially, I'm willing to take Koon's rough parity with Savage and general accolades to indicate superiority to Nihl & Talon, even though I'm not confident on it.
I might be able to help with that. Koon lost to Savage in a pretty onesided fight despite having the aid of clone troopers, and the only accolades he has are fairly generic and could (sans the "Jedi" element) easily apply to Talon and Nihl, who are both among the most skilled and powerful members of one of the most powerful Sith Empires in history. The positions they hold in the order are those that the Sith constantly compete for with lethal intent - that's how Nihl first became a Hand, and Talon, being recognised as a prodigy (and I believe she's a 2nd or 3rd generation Sith to boot), was groomed on Korriban from infancy to be Krayt's other Hand.

Suffice to say I don't think a contest of generic "one of the best" accolades is going to do much to separate any of the characters here, so it's mostly going to be a feats comparison.
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May 9th 2019, 11:52 am
Make it Sha Koon and the Jedi win. As it stand, Ti is the weak link that gets Plo killed imo.
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May 9th 2019, 11:53 am
LSDMB wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.
Well I mean, Plo Koon did demonstrate his solid superiority over Savage before Savage cheapshotted him

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May 9th 2019, 11:54 am
LSDMB wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.
Well I mean, Plo Koon did demonstrate his solid superiority over Savage before Savage cheapshotted him

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May 9th 2019, 12:16 pm
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
I don't understand why they are to be given the "benefit of the doubt" - can you expand on that?

Essentially, I'm willing to take Koon's rough parity with Savage and general accolades to indicate superiority to Nihl & Talon, even though I'm not confident on it.
I might be able to help with that. Koon lost to Savage in a pretty onesided fight despite having the aid of clone troopers, and the only accolades he has are fairly generic and could (sans the "Jedi" element) easily apply to Talon and Nihl, who are both among the most skilled and powerful members of one of the most powerful Sith Empires in history. The positions they hold in the order are those that the Sith constantly compete for with lethal intent - that's how Nihl first became a Hand, and Talon, being recognised as a prodigy (and I believe she's a 2nd or 3rd generation Sith to boot), was groomed on Korriban from infancy to be Krayt's other Hand.

Suffice to say I don't think a contest of generic "one of the best" accolades is going to do much to separate any of the characters here, so it's mostly going to be a feats comparison.
But ILS! Shaak Ti is stated by Obi-Wan to be super cunning, that means even if she is outmatched she'll just outsmart her opponents.
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May 9th 2019, 12:39 pm
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:
SithArchaeologist wrote:
ILS wrote:Any arguments for the Jeedai? Nihl and Talon have plenty of impressive accolades and feats in their own right.

I'm willing to give the Jedi the benefit of the doubt here, given Shaak's TFU feats stacking on her RotS feats. Koon I'm less confident on, but like I said, I'll give them the benefit of that doubt.
I don't understand why they are to be given the "benefit of the doubt" - can you expand on that?

Essentially, I'm willing to take Koon's rough parity with Savage and general accolades to indicate superiority to Nihl & Talon, even though I'm not confident on it.
I might be able to help with that. Koon lost to Savage in a pretty onesided fight despite having the aid of clone troopers, and the only accolades he has are fairly generic and could (sans the "Jedi" element) easily apply to Talon and Nihl, who are both among the most skilled and powerful members of one of the most powerful Sith Empires in history. The positions they hold in the order are those that the Sith constantly compete for with lethal intent - that's how Nihl first became a Hand, and Talon, being recognised as a prodigy (and I believe she's a 2nd or 3rd generation Sith to boot), was groomed on Korriban from infancy to be Krayt's other Hand.

Suffice to say I don't think a contest of generic "one of the best" accolades is going to do much to separate any of the characters here, so it's mostly going to be a feats comparison.

In the past I have argued heavily for Nihl & Talon in matchups such as these. I've not been able to counter CW-era scaling though. How would you counter this?
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May 9th 2019, 2:25 pm
If it's a scaling war then I don't see how Plo benefits that much from the Shadow Guard scaling. Legacy has very, very generous satellite scaling and Cade throwing a shuttle like a baseball at the beginning of the series when he is sub-Shado level.
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May 9th 2019, 2:53 pm
Inclined to back the sith tbh.
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May 9th 2019, 5:52 pm
Jedi team should win. Their hype and feats impresses me more.
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May 11th 2019, 11:49 am
Talon and Nihl easily
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