Top U.S presidents

@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:1. Thomas Jefferson

EmperorCaedus wrote:

@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:1. Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson > Lincoln?

@KingofBlades wrote:Trump>>>

Trump has the best economy work arounds, as far as I know.

@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:hmm, thats a good point, i suppose. doesnt change the fact that trump did his in less than 4 years tho, while doing it slightly more impressive. i still give the economic part to trump.

so its a bad thing that rich people dont have to pay more now? i get it, lets strangle them for money, cuz ur everyday american is fucked. now thats hella american. 

u used the right word there. he increased the already accumulative debt, meaning that he is but one president (with a term that hasnt even hit the 4 years mark yet) in what the others have done to come up with the other trillions of dollars. sorry to say, but 22 trillion dollars dont suddenly pop up once a random president comes into play. it was already bad before he came along. not to discredit obama, but the amount presidents that actually made a solo difference (as in, they by themselves did something, without using another president's elevator as a helper) can be counted in one hand. both rode the same wagon. and like i said, obama had more time to do what he did. 

im not saying that he is great, nor that he has done great things, but putting obama above him just isnt how i see at all. now, if u listed the amount of things that obama has done that were good, and werent riding upon another president's back, i would 100% change my imo

• The economy gained a net 11.6 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
  
  
• Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.0 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
  
  
• After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
  
  
• The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million. Premiums rose, but more slowly than before.
  
  
• The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed.
  
  
• Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.
  
  
• Illegal immigration declined: The Border Patrol caught 35 percent fewer people trying to get into the U.S. from Mexico.
  
  
• Wind and solar power increased 369 percent. Coal production declined 38 percent. Carbon emissions from burning fossil fuel dropped 11 percent.
  
  
• Production of handguns rose 192 percent, to a record level.
  
  
• The murder rate dropped to the lowest on record in 2014, then rose and finished at the same rate as when Obama took office.