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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 22nd 2019, 9:36 am
RotS Fisto replaces Maul in the Theed Hangar to fight TPM Jinn and Kenobi. 


  • Standard morals and equipment.
  • Location is Theed hangar.
  • Starting distance is the same starting distance between Maul and the duo.
  • Duo does not get confused at why Fisto wants to fight them to the death.
  • Fisto doesn't have Maul's intimate knowledge of the Theed hangar.
  • No BFRs, dirty fighting (biting, scratching, hair pulling etc.), cheap shots or CIS.
  • No amps.


And plz don't turn this into a Qui-Gon vs Fisto thread, we already have one of these.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 22nd 2019, 10:03 am
Fisto is considerably better than Obi-Wan and is comparable to Qui-Gon to the point that he'd win in a drawn out duel. However, the two together are just too much.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 22nd 2019, 11:26 am
Qui-Gon > Fisto

Qui-Gon and Kenobi > Fisto
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 22nd 2019, 11:33 am
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Fisto absolutely destroys
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on October 22nd 2019, 12:22 pm
@CuckedCurry wrote:Fisto absolutely destroys

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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 22nd 2019, 4:21 pm
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I can honestly see Fitso winning. He's not superior to their combined skills, but this a great stylistic matchup for him. He can keep them both at bay with his agility and Shi-Cho until he finds an opening to kill Obi-Wan, whom he already outclassed as a seasoned veteran of the CW, and beat Qui-Gon one-on-one.
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on October 22nd 2019, 5:20 pm
Much like Maul, if he can separate them he can win.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 25th 2019, 11:40 am
I could see Fisto winning 6/10. There are some things he has missing over Maul:
- weapon less suited to fighting duos,
- somewhat less martial sophistication,
- being a less strategic fighter, imo, approaching fights more head-on with his insane speed and power,
- generally being just an inferior combatant, even if I honestly don't see him as much inferior, but even Gillard's tiering supports it, putting Maul at 8 and Fisto at 7.

I won't mention Force power, since it really didn't matter in this fight, it was a purely lightsaber duel.

Then, Fisto has advantages over Maul in:
- far greater speed,
- Shii-Cho.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on October 25th 2019, 1:12 pm
@Bart wrote:- somewhat less martial sophistication,

I would contest "somewhat less". Fisto is, granted, one of the best swordsmen in the Order by the time of the Clone Wars, and he's a confirmed master of at least two forms. But how is that in any way comparable to Maul? Maul is the most highly trained Sith in galactic history, taught ruthlessly by Sidious to be a weapon against the Jedi and had to be able to stand against his master in a lightsaber duel. He's mastered every single form along with various combat forms including Teras Kasi. He's got superior technical skill to someone like Qui-Gon and one source has him as second greatest duelist in the galaxy during TPM. He's trained in various weapons, and an expert in the saberstaff. This guy isn't "somewhat" more martially sophisticated than Fisto, he's solidly so.

@Bart wrote:- far greater speed,

Why? Because of a sparring match in Cestus Deception? Scaling is flawed because I don't believe Kenobi's rage amped performance against an off-guard tired Maul is representative of Kenobi's combative state in TPM relative to Maul. And, you know, it's a spar where Kenobi has never seen Fisto's stated unorthodox and randomised style.

@Bart wrote:- Shii-Cho.

Not seeing how this gives Fisto that much of an advantage, because he also loses the tactical flexibility of Maul, who was outmaneuvering Jinn and Kenobi at every turn.
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on October 25th 2019, 1:52 pm
@MeatPants: There's also this source that says that Maul was more powerful than the rage amped Kenobi:


"In a lightsaber duel, confidence is always a good thing. But when confidence turns to arrogance, the duelist can easily throw away what seems to be a certain victory. Sith Lord Darth Maul was so sure of his skills that he believed he could defeat two Jedi at once. When Maul battled Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi at the same time on Naboo, at first he seemed right. Thanks to his mastery of martial arts and his deadly saberstaff, Darth Maul was a fearsome opponent for the Jedi. Qui-Gon was fatally injured by the clash, and although Obi-Wan fought on bravely, it was clear that the Sith was more powerful. Maul's Force push left Obi-Wan hanging from a pipe, having lost his lightsaber, and it looked as if Maul would finish off the Jedi. But his arrogance got the better of him. He stopped for a moment to taunt his opponent. Obi-Wan summoned all of his strength and used the Force to retrieve Qui-Gon's weapon, defeating Maul with one blow. Darth Maul was destroyed, a victim of his own arrogance." Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 12:10 pm
Bump.
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on March 24th 2020, 12:15 pm
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RotS Fisto>CD Fisto>AotC Kenobi>TPM Jinn>TPM Kenobi

don't see why he'd lose.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 12:16 pm
Kit wrecks, the more Jinns and Kenobis you add the easier it gets for him.
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on March 24th 2020, 1:19 pm
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 1:22 pm
the jamaiquino dude wins
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 3:49 pm
@Bart wrote:I could see Fisto winning 6/10. There are some things he has missing over Maul:
- weapon less suited to fighting duos,
- somewhat less martial sophistication,
- being a less strategic fighter, imo, approaching fights more head-on with his insane speed and power,
- generally being just an inferior combatant, even if I honestly don't see him as much inferior, but even Gillard's tiering supports it, putting Maul at 8 and Fisto at 7.

I won't mention Force power, since it really didn't matter in this fight, it was a purely lightsaber duel.

Then, Fisto has advantages over Maul in:
- far greater speed,
- Shii-Cho.

You sure ROTS Fisto has more speed than TPM Maul?
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 4:12 pm
Fisto is a more speed reliant fighter than Maul.
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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 5:34 pm
@Latham2000 wrote:Fisto is a more speed reliant fighter than Maul.

I'd say TPM Maul is at least as fast as any version of Fisto if not faster. His speed feats in Lockdown and Shadow Hunter put him up there.


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Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi Empty Re: Kit Fisto vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi

on March 24th 2020, 7:54 pm
Jinn solos. Adding in Kenobi makes this a slaughter.
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