Darth Malgus vs Adi Gallia

The Ellimist wrote:I guess you can technically point out that research shows professional consensus and aggregation of crowd opinion are often pretty accurate, sometimes more accurate than your attempt to figure it out by yourself.  Of course, that doesn't mean appealing to it makes for a very productive conversation in the context of a forum discussion (just as a general observation, not necessarily whatever was going on here).

And yeah, keep it civil please.

this is a debating forum about fictional world kiddo not a real world .

so sometimes to save time i appeal to it if the people i take as credible debaters share my opinion and opinion of others
and if i deem the battle as one sided (in my opinion) i don´t want to waste time to prove the obvious (that is my POV)

don´t call me a sheep cause you know jack about me .
i´m anything but .

DarthSkywalker0 wrote:@dark_globe Glad to see you debate on the forum. @StrangerThingsFan77 let's keep it civil

Jake wrote:To reinforce Cilghal's posts;

General Grievous' cybernetics and unorthodox fighting form make him practically invincible in combat according to Star Wars: Fandex Deluxe Edition, with Dooku believing that "few, if any" beings would be able to stand against him in a duel, and San Hill claiming his abilities would outstrip any Jedi. After just 10 seconds of fighting, Adi Gallia tags Grievous and immediately gains the upper hand, forcing him to flee out of fear for his life;

So Close: Above Saleucami, Adi crosses sabers with Grievous and gains the upper hand in their duel. But a ruptured docking tube allows him to make yet another quick getaway.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars New Battlefronts (scan)

During their mission to rescue Jedi Eeth Koth, Gallia steps in just as Grievous is about to kill Obi-Wan. Her skill with a lightsaber sends the cyborg running!
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Jedi Heroes

To address counters I've seen to these;
1. The New Battlefronts quote says the docking tube collapse is what allows Grievous to escape, not the reason for him fleeing in the first place. Meaning there's no contradiction with Jedi Heroes; Grievous was sent packing by Gallia's skill, and this moment of chaos just gave him the opening to run away from that.

2. Grievous defeating her 35 episodes later (chronologically) can't really be used either, as we don't see the final part of the duel. Grievous enters with a squad of droids that are shown taking out her Clones quicker than the converse, and Dave Filoni, George Lucas, Matt Wood etc. all take every opportunity to highlight Grievous' cowardice, making this win highly questionable. This has the same setup as the Koth fight.

Against Savage, you have to remember a strength advantage is a factor which TCW and its tie-ins heavily emphasise - more so than any other material - to such an extent that augmentation barely seems to be a thing at times (see Dooku, Ventress, and even Obi-Wan and Anakin). For Gallia to only be pushed back by Savage "little by little" is insane.

Gallia stomps Grievous in 10 seconds, who shits all over Malgus in a war of accolades. Savage's strength advantage is exaggerated by outside factors and shouldn't be seen as a weakness for her, as she still gives him a decent fight.

ILS wrote:Mixing TCW with the old EU to say Gallia sent Grievous packing when he fodderised her in the original version of her death is a great meme though

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ILS wrote:Any of the protags are able to solo that fight.

IG wrote:

ILS wrote:Any of the protags are able to solo that fight.

Doesn't mean it's the canonical route though. For example, I can play SW and solo Foundry, but Foundry is a group mission. The desc for FE seems to imply that it's a group mission too.

ILS wrote:

IG wrote:

ILS wrote:Any of the protags are able to solo that fight.

Doesn't mean it's the canonical route though. For example, I can play SW and solo Foundry, but Foundry is a group mission. The desc for FE seems to imply that it's a group mission too.

Right, but they can do it. It's a valid option.

IG wrote:

ILS wrote:

IG wrote:

ILS wrote:Any of the protags are able to solo that fight.

Doesn't mean it's the canonical route though. For example, I can play SW and solo Foundry, but Foundry is a group mission. The desc for FE seems to imply that it's a group mission too.

Right, but they can do it. It's a valid option.

Which is besides the point though. Technically we can do any flashpoint solo, doesn't mean that's the canonical choice. Refer to Foundry for that.

KelDorianUnit wrote:Gallia

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