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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:47 pm
I'm repping Anakin but I'm trying to get everyone's opinion.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:49 pm
Yoda unless Anakin goes nuts
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:50 pm
Kfv beats him

Other versions lose
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:03 pm
Anakin has more most powerful quotes than yoda circa RotS. The majority of Yoda's occur after Anakin became Lord Vader as well.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:05 pm
Note I'm not saying RotS Anakin is clearly superior to Yoda like KF Vader, I see them as basically equals with Anakin holding a slight edge.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:22 pm
Any version of Anakin after the death of Count Dooku wins.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:27 pm
Going by Gillard's ranking Jedi Anakin is still tier 8 and KFV is only physically tier 9, as Gillard notes he hasn't mastered the mental side of things.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:39 pm
Yoda narrowly wins but honestly, either side could offer a strong argument.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:50 pm
Even though Yoda is a superior duelist from a technical standpoint as he's a 9 while Anakin's an 8, Anakin is both faster and stronger physically than Yoda. The speed is especially important, as speed trumps technical skill. This should equalize if not overcome any skill advantage Yoda has over Anakin imo.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:06 pm
@KingofBlades wrote:Even though Yoda is a superior duelist from a technical standpoint as he's a 9 while Anakin's an 8, Anakin is both faster and stronger physically than Yoda. The speed is especially important, as speed trumps technical skill. This should equalize if not overcome any skill advantage Yoda has over Anakin imo.

The opening to the RotS novel is just the publics viewpoint of Anakin and Obi-Wan. More specifically the children who want to be Jedi. The opening starts with the populace of Corucaunt in despair from the recent attack on the seemingly impenetrable capital and the chancellor's kidnapping but the kids tell are not afraid because "Anakin and Obi-Wan will come to save the day".

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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:47 pm
I’d like to say Anakin. But Yoda should still take a slight majority imo.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:59 pm
Also, what mindset is Anakin in? Cause that could change some things
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:05 pm
Yoda
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:19 pm
@LOTL wrote:Kfv beats him

Other versions lose
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:46 pm
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Also, what mindset is Anakin in? Cause that could change some things
This is base RotS Anakin.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:55 pm
If it's base-ROTS Anakin he probably loses though it's a good fight.
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on Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:14 pm
The thing is its base Anakin that has the out of universe most powerful jedi ever quotes. It also seems that even the opinion of the jedi has shifted from Yoda to Anakin. Mace, Agen Kolar, and Ben Kenobi all think he's arguably the most powerful member of the order, a belief Palpatine and Jacen Solo also share. Character opinions while less authoritative than 3rd person narrator or out of universe statements, should still mean a lot when a consensus seems to be reached among the various characters on the matter.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:54 am
Base Jedi Anakin is an 8 and Yoda is a 9 per Lucas tiers. Puts the nail in the coffin IMO.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:26 am
@Azronger wrote:Base Jedi Anakin is an 8 and Yoda is a 9 per Lucas tiers. Puts the nail in the coffin IMO.
The tiers only refer to lightsaber skill does it not? If so then the door is still open for Anakin being >/= Yoda by having more applicable power in the force which would lead to things that could bridge the skill gap like superior force augmentation. Although if the tiers refer to someone's prowess in an all out manner then yeah I would concede Yoda having the edge.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:28 am
The bulk of their opinions are based on the fact that Anakin killed Dooku.

Even if you wanted to put forward that LS Anakin was equal/superior to Yoda. He doesn’t have the skill to back it up. He would try and power though Yoda like he did Dooku and Yoda would just outmanoeuvre him.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:40 am
@Azronger wrote:Base Jedi Anakin is an 8 and Yoda is a 9 per Lucas tiers. Puts the nail in the coffin IMO.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:51 am
@KingofBlades wrote:
@Azronger wrote:Base Jedi Anakin is an 8 and Yoda is a 9 per Lucas tiers. Puts the nail in the coffin IMO.
The tiers only refer to lightsaber skill does it not? If so then the door is still open for Anakin being >/= Yoda by having more applicable power in the force which would lead to things that could bridge the skill gap like superior force augmentation. Although if the tiers refer to someone's prowess in an all out manner then yeah I would concede Yoda having the edge.

Lightsaber prowess is dictated by one's strength in the Force. Anakin reached level 9 by falling to the dark side and gaining the power it granted, not by improving his skills with the blade. So Yoda is still likely more powerful than Anakin at the start of RotS.
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:50 pm
Yoda if he can kill Anakin quickly enough
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:39 pm
Anakin is more powerful than anyone else come RotS even as a Jedi and it's an advantage, but as a Lightsider, he can't really channel his power to +Yoda levels until he really gets into a mindset, usually through anger or some other form of intense concentration. He never starts out with that level of power from the outset of a battle morals on. His standard level is tier 8 and it's not likely he's going to be triggered into performing Invisible Hand level feats just because he's fighting Yoda(and even if he did I'm not really convinced that's enough to beat Yoda).
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on Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:14 pm
@Azronger wrote:
@KingofBlades wrote:
@Azronger wrote:Base Jedi Anakin is an 8 and Yoda is a 9 per Lucas tiers. Puts the nail in the coffin IMO.
The tiers only refer to lightsaber skill does it not? If so then the door is still open for Anakin being >/= Yoda by having more applicable power in the force which would lead to things that could bridge the skill gap like superior force augmentation. Although if the tiers refer to someone's prowess in an all out manner then yeah I would concede Yoda having the edge.

Lightsaber prowess is dictated by one's strength in the Force. Anakin reached level 9 by falling to the dark side and gaining the power it granted, not by improving his skills with the blade. So Yoda is still likely more powerful than Anakin at the start of RotS.

There's a correlation between the lightsaber tiers and Force power, but it's not directly linear.
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