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on Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:39 pm
Standard rules. Apprentice attempts to kill the master.
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on Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:41 pm
Plagueis reduces him to dust in Force but dies in sabers

Plagueis 8/10
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on Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:43 pm
Plagueis probably.
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on Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:58 am
Sidious.
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on Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:03 am
Probably Plagueis.
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on Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:33 am
Sidious is canonically better
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on Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:00 pm
@LOTL wrote:Sidious is canonically better
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on Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:08 pm
Canonically better my ass
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on Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:13 pm
>More powerful.

>Totally translates into being better in an actual fight where Lightsaber skill, mastery, etc come into play as well.

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LOTL

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on Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:28 pm
Sidious has all of Plagueis's knowledge. In lightsaber combat, technical skill is essentially irrelevant unless there is a considerable gap and nothing indicates that Plagueis's technical skill is considerably better. In a battle of near equals in technical skill, it is the force that determines the outcome

Yeah, let's use our brains just a little.

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on Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:52 pm
@LOTL

Sidious has all of Plagueis's knowledge.

... Mastery and knowledge are two entirely different things. Not to mention Sidious isn't able to utilise MM which gives Plagueis an advantage that Sidious doesn't have. And just in general master-apprentice relationships seem to have the cards rigged in the master's favour as can be seen by numerous examples which gives Plagueis an advantage. In fact, though I don't put much stock into author quotes Luceno has said that Plagueis could find a way to undermine his apprentice suggesting that Plagueis perhaps possesses ways to overcome Sidious's power advantage.

Side Note: IIRC Sidious also notes in the novel that he wasn't 100% about fighting Plagueis because of the latter's "sorcerers ways" which once again supports my thesis that Plagueis perhaps has greater mastery than Sidious.

In lightsaber combat, technical skill is essentially irrelevant unless there is a considerable gap and nothing indicates that Plagueis's technical skill is considerably better.

Hold up a sec. Technical skill is an entirely relevant factor when the Force Users are near equals and could be the deciding factor which tips a lightsaber duel in favour of one or the other.

In a battle of near equals in technical skill, it is the force that determines the outcome

And if the Force Users are near equal couldn't we say the same for technical skill? If Sidious is slightly more powerful and Plagueis is slightly more skilled who would win the fight? I'd honestly given the edge to the person with greater technical skill because that's honestly more likely to come into play than a slight power advantage imo.

Yeah, let's use our brains just a little.

Impossible for you given that you don't have one.

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on Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:19 am
Sidious
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on Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:11 am
Plagueis.
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on Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:09 pm
Plagueis.
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on Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:26 pm
Sheev.
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on Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Hego probably.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:45 pm
plagueis in a fight of his life .
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