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on December 23rd 2019, 1:50 pm
I finally kinda finished my respect thread, so i thought this could be done.

18 BBY Darth Vader 

vs

TCW Mace Windu. 

Round 1- sabers, no force

Round 2- sabers, force augmentation and precog allowed

Round 3- force only

Round 4- all out

Usage of rage boost for Vader and usage of 'jedi focus thingy' for Windu are allowed

All feats done before this apply, as usual.

Bonus Round 

ROTS Dooku 

Vs 

TFU2 Vader

All out.
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:18 pm
Mace wins every round except the force one(Even that’s debateble)
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:22 pm
do u have reasons, or just a hunch or something like that?
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:27 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:do u have reasons, or just a hunch or something like that?

Yes i have a reason.



-Being compared second to yoda multiple times
-Faster than vader
-Arguebly comparable in strength
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:39 pm
Mace.
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:43 pm
being second to yoda doest mean much when u dont eve know the gap in power between the two, but ok.

proof that he is faster than vader?

u mean physical strength?
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on December 23rd 2019, 3:07 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:being second to yoda doest mean much when u dont eve know the gap in power between the two, but ok.

proof that he is faster than vader?

u mean physical strength?

1. It still means much lol, since they’re people like anakin and kenobi in the jedi order.
2. His fight with Sidious. They moved fast enough that anakin had a hard time keeping up.
3. Obviously.
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on December 23rd 2019, 3:41 pm
Mace stomps.
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on December 23rd 2019, 3:49 pm
Like I said, it really doesn't mean much when u don't even know the gap lol

U mean amped rots windu? Yeah sure. But this is base tcw windu

Of course.
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on December 23rd 2019, 3:52 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:Like I said, it really doesn't mean much when u don't even know the gap lol

U mean amped rots windu? Yeah sure. But this is base tcw windu

Of course.

Like as i said. If we use logic then we know the gap lol, dooku contended with yoda, anakin stomped dooku, Mace is said to be>Anakin.🤔
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:27 pm
@Greysentinel365 wrote:Mace stomps.
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:49 pm
mace is never said to be stronger than Anakin. Actually, in ROTS, mace himself admits inferiority to him by saying he is the strongest jedi alive. how ironic. and that is ROTS mace, and not TCW mace. as for something else, i can find more quotes saying that dooku> mace, than Mace > anakin lmao
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:52 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:mace is never said to be stronger than Anakin. Actually, in ROTS, mace himself admits inferiority to him by saying he is the strongest jedi alive. how ironic. and that is ROTS mace, and not TCW mace. as for something else, i can find more quotes saying that dooku> mace, than Mace > anakin lmao


There is quotes saying mace is second to yoda.
That literally says mace>Anakin. Like you have a hard time reading that?
And is there something to say how largely mace grew between TCW and ROTS?
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:54 pm
There are also many quotes that override yours saying that RotS LS Anakin is the most powerful force user alive. Saying Mace is >> Anakin is blatantly ignoring the material.
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:56 pm
for real. thanks for that EC. actually, i think i counted it before. its like, 9 quotes that say that anakin is the most powerful jedi alive, while there are like, 4 or 5 for mace that came BEFORE rots.
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:56 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:There are also many quotes that override yours saying that RotS LS Anakin is the most powerful force user alive. Saying Mace is >> Anakin is blatantly ignoring the material.


I am not putting him>Anakin.

Im saying that there’s quotes saying that. And there’s quote saying the other way around.
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:57 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:for real. thanks for that EC. actually, i think i counted it before. its like, 9 quotes that say that anakin is the most powerful jedi alive, while there are like, 4 or 5 for mace that came BEFORE rots.

I see. You need others to list things for you?
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:58 pm
Mace being second to Yoda is in reference to high positions held in the order, not combative applicable power.
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on December 23rd 2019, 4:59 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:Mace being second to Yoda is in reference to high positions held in the order, not combative applicable power.


Source: Insider #55 wrote:He seems to be second most powerful jedi on the that council, next to Yoda.''
Ye. Positions …
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:02 pm
My bad, there are other quotes saying that it’s in reference to positions. 

But either way, Anakin was not on the council at the time of that statement, so as such it doesn’t apply to Anakin.
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:04 pm
EC, should i get the quotes saying that Anakin is the strongest jedi or not?
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:04 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:My bad, there are other quotes saying that it’s in reference to positions. 

But either way, Anakin was not on the council at the time of that statement, so as such it doesn’t apply to Anakin.


He was still stated to be on par with yoda.

A respected Jedi with powers on a par with those venerable Yoda, Mace Windu was a senior member of the Jedi High Council, and his wisdom and judgement were legendary.''
Source: Star Wars Fact File Remake #008
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:06 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:EC, should i get the quotes saying that Anakin is the strongest jedi or not?
Yes.
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:08 pm
R1: Mace, decent fight.
R2: Could go either way but leaning Mace. He's yet to get his massive 19 BBY/ROTS boost but he's still incredibly powerful at this point. If this is post killing Shryne, Vader could very conceivably win, though.
R3: Mace.
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:09 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:EC, should i get the quotes saying that Anakin is the strongest jedi or not?


I already know of them lol
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