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on December 22nd 2019, 6:56 pm
Which side wins?
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on December 22nd 2019, 7:23 pm
Jedi through sheer numbers
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on December 22nd 2019, 7:47 pm
Maks Leem wrote:Jedi through sheer numbers
This. Also more powerful individuals (GM Luke, Yoda, Anakin, Mace, etc.).
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on December 22nd 2019, 7:59 pm
Rey solos
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on December 22nd 2019, 8:35 pm
eh idk tbh. ok so sith would be DE sidious, Krayt, Caedus, Plagueis, Dooku, Vader, and the rest of the really strong ones. i think that the Sheev tiers for the sith outweight the Sheev tiers for the jedi. they might win.
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on December 22nd 2019, 8:54 pm
Jedi.
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on December 22nd 2019, 9:06 pm
Jedi.
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on December 22nd 2019, 9:30 pm
Depends if legends or canon.
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on December 22nd 2019, 10:15 pm
The Sith honestly. The heavy hitters cancel each other out but the Sith have far more mid-tiers.
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on December 23rd 2019, 5:37 am
Jedi since they have people like luke, anakin, yoda, mace and Kenobi just to name a few
Tho a strong sith>A strong jedi tbh
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on December 23rd 2019, 6:35 am
Jedi win as per canon
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on December 23rd 2019, 2:19 pm
The only person that can stand against DE Sheev is GM Luke, but back Sheev up with Kun, Krayt, and all the banites and It's not unfathomable to see the sith pulling a win. Not to mention the sith have what is essentially multiple instant death creators in the way of nihilus's drain, sheevs force storm, and Kun's sith sorcery. Most of which are techniques long forgotten on how to even defend against for most combatants.

Overall sith, but it's close
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on December 24th 2019, 3:47 am
Jedi.
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on December 24th 2019, 12:19 pm
LSith 

Vastly more powerful to the point where it’s hilarious 

Barring Yoda and Luke, the Jedi can’t compete in terms of force abilities
Unless they all attempt sever force which will be Suicide as they’d be open for attack
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on December 24th 2019, 12:51 pm
Meh, Mace, Anakin, Revan, the Outlander, Yoda, GM Luke, Yaddle, etc. are firmly above most of the Sith in SW. The only exceptions would be Sheev, Vitiate, maybe Krayt, maybe Plagueis, and a handful of others.
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on December 27th 2019, 9:27 am
Plagueis solos via MM GG.
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on December 27th 2019, 9:53 am
@Gaunter O'Dimm wrote:Plagueis solos via MM GG.
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on December 27th 2019, 10:17 am
Changed my mind.

Canon

Jedi. The Sith are pretty unknown and their only high tiers are Vader, Sidious and maybe Dooku. By contrast, the Jedi have Luke, Yoda, Anakin and Mace, and for mid tiers they also have Obi-Wan, Ahsoka Tano (Rebels), Kanan Jarrus (season 4), Eeth Koth, Kit Fisto, etc while the Sith only have Lord Momin and Darth Maul so far. 

Winner: Jedi in a near stomp. 

Legends


Sith solidly. The Sith have Vitiate, Sidious, Plagueis, KFV and Tenebrous, while the Jedi's high tiers are Yoda, Luke, the Outlander, Zonakin and Mace. Luke is above anyone on the Sith team but DE Sidious > the Outlander, Mace and Yoda, while a Plagueis/Vitiate tag team can deal with any single high tier person on the Jedi team or stalemate/hold off an Outlander/Zonakin/Mace/Yoda two-man team for a while. 


High tier battle: Chances are that Sidious will immediately target Luke, while Vitiate will go for the Outlander and KFV goes for Zonakin, leaving Plagueis and Tenebrous to take on Mace and Yoda. Mace and Yoda are individually more skilled and more powerful than either of the two Banites, but it will take them time to beat them. KFV will beat Zonakin eventually, the Outlander should eventually beat Vitiate, and Luke will eventually beat Sidious. Luke will be exhausted after beating Sidious, as will the Outlander. KFV will then be left to fight Mace and Yoda by himself, who will probably handily beat him, especially if they have help from Luke and Zonakin. 

Alternatively, Sheev and Krayt (if you consider him a high tier; I put him in betwen) might gang up on Luke and defeat him, drastically changing the outcome of this conflict. The high tier Jedi's victory relies on Sheev being eliminated to win. If he's not, and he's not exhausted, they're losing. Luke is the only high tier who can beat him here. A team of Mace and Yoda (and Zonakin, probably) would be able to beat Sidious, but there's simply too many high tiers who are comparable to them in power.


Mid tier battle: The Sith have Marr, Darth Revan, Bane, Caedus, Krayt, Zannah, Darth Baras, Darth Thanaton, the Dread Masters, Emperor's Wrath, Lord Scourge, Darth Malgus, Darth Vader, Count Dooku, Darth Maul and Darth Nox. The Jedi have the HoT, the Barsen'Thor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yaddle, Fay, Satele Shan, Ahsoka Tano (Rebels), Yarael Poof, Eeth Koth, Kit Fisto, and the rest of the B-team. 

The Sith clearly have a pretty massive power edge due to Marr, Revan, Malgus, Krayt, Baras, the DM, Nox, the EW, Vader and Dooku. Any of these are above almost everyone on the Jedi side (except Obi-Wan, HoT, Satele, Yaddle, Fay, Yarael Poof and the Barsen'Thor, who are all ~/< Malgus, Revan, Krayt, Vader and Dooku anyway). The team also has better duelists in Marr, EW, Scourge, Malgus, Vader, Dooku, Maul and Krayt. The Sith should honestly manhandle this tier.

Once the mid tier Sith have finished pummelling most of the mid tier Jedi then dogpiling its aforementioned MVPs, they gang up on the high tiers. Luke and the Outlander will be exhausted from their respective fights and will be overwhelmed, while Mace and Yoda are both much stronger than almost everyone on the mid tier Sith side but will be tired (especially Yoda) and will also go down due to sheer numbers.

Winner: Sith. 
Quorian Debatist
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on December 27th 2019, 2:12 pm
Jedi just throw up a huge Wall of Light.
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on December 27th 2019, 3:58 pm
@Quorian Debatist wrote:Jedi just throw up a huge Wall of Light.

And would it work? Tales of the Jedi portrays a sizeable contingent taking out just Ulic Qel-Droma by himself, and it was thousands of Jedi who imprisoned Exar Kun when was empowered by the entire Massassi race. Odan-Urr by his lonesome failed to take Kun out with the Wall of Light and got one-shot by telekinesis in retaliation, and Qel-Droma was an emotional wreck and clearly not defending himself when Nomi Sunrider used the power on him. I'm not convinced the Jedi would be able to simultaneously trap potentially billions of Sith in a Wall of Light without leaving themselves vulnerable to gigadrain, Force storms, and other area-of-effect attacks from Sidious, Vitiate, Nihilus, and others.
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on December 27th 2019, 4:16 pm
@Azronger wrote:
@Quorian Debatist wrote:Jedi just throw up a huge Wall of Light.

And would it work? Tales of the Jedi portrays a sizeable contingent taking out just Ulic Qel-Droma by himself, and it was thousands of Jedi who imprisoned Exar Kun when was empowered by the entire Massassi race. Odan-Urr by his lonesome failed to take Kun out with the Wall of Light and got one-shot by telekinesis in retaliation, and Qel-Droma was an emotional wreck and clearly not defending himself when Nomi Sunrider used the power on him. I'm not convinced the Jedi would be able to simultaneously trap potentially billions of Sith in a Wall of Light without leaving themselves vulnerable to gigadrain, Force storms, and other area-of-effect attacks from Sidious, Vitiate, Nihilus, and others.

It worked against Sidious, VOTJ Jerec, and Exar Kun already. Kun wasn't even solely directed at him either. If such an attack hit any Sith on the field I doubt they'll still be in fighting shape.

I'm aware of the individual pitfalls of the technique, but that doesn't speak to the potential of every Jedi in history combining their abilities to do this and beat down every possible individual attack. Might not hit the full army, depending how they fight but it's really not portrayed as something you can just beat back but only survive at best. Like if a big old Wall was coming at the Sith then it's hard to see them slip force attacks through that Wall until it stops. Especially considering it can just grab all the darkness of a planet and throw it in a lake so it can definitely be tangible against the Darkside.

Maybe one big Wall of Light attacks vs one big Force Storm would be more in order, but that'd be assuming the Sith work together.

Either Wall of Light or the Jedi get picked apart for their inability to do large scale attacks.
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on December 27th 2019, 4:48 pm
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