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on October 20th 2019, 10:26 pm
-Prime TCW Maul with his choice of dual-sabers or saberstaff

-37BBY Sheev as of his duel with Maul on Hypori

Maul is transported back to the fateful moment where Sheev tricked him. He is given an opportunity at revenge.

Who wins?
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on October 21st 2019, 12:22 am
I don't think Maul can reincarnate the same rage he had when Sidious tricked him. Considering also that Sidious' ability to harness his power through his body didn't increase much from this time through to DE, it's basically the same as the TCW fight: Maul holds on until he exhausts his Force reserves; Sidious remains relatively fresh (but does strain a lot potentially). 

If it's a Force battle, Sidious just decisively wins.
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on October 21st 2019, 4:13 am
@Meatpants wrote:I don't think Maul can reincarnate the same rage he had when Sidious tricked him. Considering also that Sidious' ability to harness his power through his body didn't increase much from this time through to DE, it's basically the same as the TCW fight: Maul holds on until he exhausts his Force reserves; Sidious remains relatively fresh (but does strain a lot potentially). 

If it's a Force battle, Sidious just decisively wins.

Maul literally days later felt more powerful than when he was in rage mode on Hypori. TPM also says he's never been as good as he is there. TCW Maul would butcher this version of Sidious, honestly. The scaling is silly but it exists.
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on October 21st 2019, 5:45 am
@Meatpants wrote:I don't think Maul can reincarnate the same rage he had when Sidious tricked him.
It's been noted on several occasions after the fact that he has:

"From this day forward." Sidious said," you are a Sith Lord. You have chosen a path of darkness, the path of power. You are Lord Maul. You are my instrument."
[...]
Sidious and Maul returned to Coruscant, where a medical droid tended to Maul’s injuries. Maul had felt drained by his trials on Hypori, but within several days he felt stronger than ever before. Now that he was a Sith Lord, he was empowered by a sense of purpose.
―The Wrath of Darth Maul


Also, in his journal, Maul states he was "only beginning to taste the dark power of a Sith" shortly after this fight (still at the age of 17).
My Master points to the entry. "This will be your weapon, Lord Maul. In order to serve me well, you must be invincible. "

He tells me I must build it myself so that I know it intimately. It shall be fitted to my hand, balanced for my stroke. I shall train with it until it is part of me. And then I will join him on the greatest mission of all.

"What is that, Master?" I dare to ask.

"The domination of the entire galaxy, " he tells me.

That day, I feel a savage exhilaration close to the joy I feel in battle. I am involved in great things. Domination. Control.

I am only beginning to taste the dark power of a Sith.
―Episode I Journal: Darth Maul



Maul in his fight with Jinn and Kenobi, up to that point, had never fought better. His particular hatred for the Jedi drove him further, but even without that, he was better than he ever was before.
Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime, never to be any better, his powers at their apex. In addition, he was driven by his messianic hatred for and disdain of the Jedi Knights, the enemies of the Sith for millennia. He had worked and trained all his life for this moment, for a chance to meet a Jedi Knight in combat. It was an added bonus that he was able to engage two. He had no fear for himself, no doubt that he would win. He was focused in a way that Qui-Gon recognized at once-a Jedi's focus, mindful of the present, locked in on what was needed in the here and now. Qui-Gon saw it in his mad eyes and in the set of his red and black tattooed features. The Sith Lord was a living example of what the Jedi Master was always telling Obi-Wan about how best to hear the will of the Force.
―The Phantom Menace



"I accelerate my pace, calling on my anger to increase my power. My footwork has never been so brilliant. I use the shifting sand as resistance."
―Episode I Journal: Darth Maul


Also:

Lord Maul should have told me about his battle with the Togorian pirates. I have read his journal, and I see that he kept a secret from me. If I had known about his leg wound, would I have given different orders, arranged for a backup?
No. I am sure Maul was at his peak when he fought the Jedi.

―Episode I Journal: Darth Maul
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on October 21st 2019, 11:54 am
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